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4 years 10 months ago #1 by Brent Graham
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A decent weekend for me despite the Lions poor showing and the Crusaders and Saracens points plays were the key.

Onto week 14 and here are my handicaps compared to Coils

Hurricanes -11.5 v Jags -14.5
Rebels -5.5 v Bulls -12.5
Blues -2.5 v Chiefs -5.5
Reds -1.5 v Waratahs -3.5
Lions choice v Highlanders -3.5
Stormers +5.5 v Crusaders +8.5

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4 years 10 months ago #2 by Overs_Punter
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A few gifts from GGGaming

Reds +5.5 - Tahs are average & travel factor. Reds pack will dominate at home

Highlanders +3.5 - Landers got a really solid pack that will nullify any threat of forward dominance from the lions. Landers will win this in a canter
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4 years 10 months ago #3 by mackem
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Eye Wide Shut, this week's edition of Post Match Scuffle from Couch Critic

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4 years 10 months ago #4 by kompos
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33/10 on the Bulls is not a bad price against a team that give away a lot of penalties and even a yellow card or two

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4 years 10 months ago #5 by ThoughtsOnSports
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I'm with Overs_Punter here. Reds +5.5 and Landers +3.5 saw my early wagers. Leaning towards Storm +14.5.

5 o clock kick off on the coast will mitigate any chance the Saders have of chalking up a big scoreline. Hoping to crack in on under Saders points if the line is around 34.5

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4 years 10 months ago #6 by mackem
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4 years 10 months ago #7 by Brent Graham
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Will be joined by @JudgeRugby Couch and @LaurenTerras on tonights 'Use it or Lose it" show where we will also look at the Bok centre pairing and which hemisphere is best placed to lift the trophy in Japan

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4 years 10 months ago #8 by mackem
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Hurricanes v Jaguares preview

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4 years 10 months ago #9 by mackem
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Rebels v Bulls preview

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4 years 10 months ago #10 by Scoembo
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Guys, the Jaguars literally sent their B team to the Highlanders and was still able to compete. That's Crusaders type stuff. Granted the Highlanders wasn't at full strength either but the way the Argies have been performing this year I think a handicap of +14 (Sportingbet) at the moment is a slap in the face. They should have all their big guns back this weekend and with no significant injuries I believe they're in with a shot against the Canes on Friday.

The second game that has been over priced in my opinion is the Stormers/Saders +13 (Sportingbet) . Yes the Saders are carving up at the moment but the Stormers defence has improved a lot lately and I fancy they will be fired up for this one. Could be real tight like the last All Blacks game at Newlands.
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4 years 10 months ago #11 by threepeat
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mackem wrote Hurricanes v Jaguares preview

Bet: 1.5 units Hurricanes win by 11-20 points, 23/10 BetXchange

Hi Mack, I agree with you about this being tricky and that the bookies have it about right at -15.5 (TAB NZ) I am on a similar page about the result but will bet it differently due to fire power of both backlines. Highlanders v Jaguares last week at Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin was 32-27. I had a win on the Jags line in the forum last week (and real life lol) and will double down this week.

Bet: 1 unit Jags +15.5 @ $1.90
Bet: 1 unit Jags +18.5 @ $1.62

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4 years 10 months ago #12 by takethegap
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threepeat wrote: mackem wrote Hurricanes v Jaguares preview

Bet: 1.5 units Hurricanes win by 11-20 points, 23/10 BetXchange

Hi Mack, I agree with you about this being tricky and that the bookies have it about right at -15.5 (TAB NZ) I am on a similar page about the result but will bet it differently due to fire power of both backlines. Highlanders v Jaguares last week at Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin was 32-27. I had a win on the Jags line in the forum last week (and real life lol) and will double down this week.

Bet: 1 unit Jags +15.5 @ $1.90
Bet: 1 unit Jags +18.5 @ $1.62

Good luck to everyone.


Canes resting Barret. Took Jags +14.5
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4 years 10 months ago #13 by threepeat
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takethegap wrote

Canes resting Barret. Took Jags +14.5

Thanks for the update takethegap. Line has moved into Jags + 13.5 following Barret announcement, so we are looking sweet.

Also of note Savea moved to eight - probably an AB request.

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4 years 10 months ago #14 by landrews77
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Hi ,Scoembo , I am in your camp with both the jags on the plus and Stormers on the plus. The jags were very disappointed the the result last week and I think they gonna make it hard for the Hurricanes this coming week.

Stormers and Crusaders- All stormers players talked about their defence ,and I think they gonna use the Sharks formula against the Sades.

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4 years 10 months ago #15 by RuggaBugga
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Firmly in the Jags camp. Here are the results where BB was not at 10.
Round 10 - Sunwolves 23 Canes 29 - Canes win, don't cover
Round 2 - Crusaders 38 Canes 22 - Canes lose and fail to cover
Round 1 - Waratahs 19 Canes 20 - Canes win, don't cover

The Canes have not covered a handicap when BB is not playing! Agree with all other senitiment. Jags +14.5 is GOLDEN!!!

Scared money dont make money! BOOM!
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4 years 10 months ago #16 by RuggaBugga
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Big guns are back in the Jags Pack, this +14.5 is looking superb!

GOLDEN JAGS

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4 years 10 months ago #17 by Pierrebal
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SuperSport Challenge handicaps came out last night and picked out a few of interest. Last week went much better and I ended up with 5 from 8, so an upward curve from the previous week. This week I fancy:

FS (-22.5) vs SWD - FS got home to winning ways superbly making light work of EP away. SWD scraped home to Zimbabwe, and they are really in trouble. The game is played at the Clive Solomon stadium, had to Google it, but it looks like a community football ground more than a stadium. Nonetheless, FS should cover the cap against a poor SWD.

WP (-45.5) vs Zim - WP was back to its destructive self last week dispatching of the Sharks away with ease. Zimbabwe has been a surprise beating 2 from 3 caps. With the Stormers back in South Africa, having had a rest, and lots of players back, some guys will drop down to the WP side. Its been there style. Playing the curtain raiser to the Super Rugby match, and looking to impress they will have too much for Zimbabwe.

Griffons (-19.5) v Namibia - The Griffons beat the cap against the Bulls last week and should have come closer after a poor first half. Namibia lost out on the cap in the dying seconds of the match against Griquas. Pre-tournament the Windhoek news was all about using the tournament as preparation for the WC but very few international regulars have played so far. Until that happens I will oppose them and am backing the Griffons to come good.

Leopards (-1.5) v Valke - As with the previous match, the game in played in Rustenburg, which is now the Leopards home ground after the decommissioning of Olen Park. The Leopards played very well against the Pumas and beat a massive cap. So did the Valke, they came back strongly against the Lions in the 2nd half. Pre-match the cap was -22.5 and at half time -38.5. Valke ended up losing by 3. In close games I prefer the home side, just think the Lions stepped off the gas too much and the score flattered the Valke in the end.

All the other matches are a coin flip for me, caps very well set and I'll stay away. Would love for Boland to beat the Sharks and they can certainly do that. Crazy form.

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4 years 10 months ago #18 by mackem
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Blues v Chiefs preview

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2 units, Chiefs win by 1-12 points at 5/2 Sportingbet

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4 years 10 months ago - 4 years 10 months ago #19 by mackem
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Reds v Waratahs preview

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2.5 units, Either side to win by 6 points or less inc tie (Tribet - any other result 14/10 WSB)

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4 years 10 months ago #20 by landrews77
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"We need to start the tour well, but more importantly, we need to get some self-respect back after our poor showing in front of the Loftus faithful last weekend. We owe it to them, but also ourselves to show some intent and some desire to win this competition," coach Pote Human said.
Having said that , I feel The Bulls is a worthy or confident bet on the plus and for small stake , a win.

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4 years 10 months ago #21 by mackem
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Lions v Highlanders preview

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Looks to be shaping up into a choice game but right now if you fancy Highlanders there is still even money around for the away win and I'll go with that outcome rated at 2.5 units.

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4 years 10 months ago #22 by threepeat
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Hi ThoughtsOnSports

RE your comment "5 o clock kick off on the coast will mitigate any chance the Saders have of chalking up a big scoreline. Hoping to crack in on under Saders points if the line is around 34.5"

As a foreigner, yet to visit fantastic Capetown could you please explain why 5 o'clock in May will slow down a rampant Sader Team? (Saders use to a lot of cold weather).

Expecting Saders v Bulls game plan which trumps Sharks game plan v Saders.

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4 years 10 months ago #23 by threepeat
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Springboks 2018 Rugby World Cup home jersey. Photo / Twitter

Some fans have pointed out that there was no Springbok on the front of the jersey and took to social media to point out their frustrations.

"I hate World Cup jerseys. Always diluted....where's the Springbok logo?" one fan pointed out.

"Nice cricket jerseys... When will you be revealing the "Springbok" Jersey??? #ridiculous," said another.

"Where's your springbok???? Shocking," added another fan.

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4 years 10 months ago #24 by mackem
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Stormers v Crusaders preview

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Going with STO +12.5 although not that easy to justify it. Saders in Cape Town for first time since 2013 is big news and hoping that will help bring out best in Stormers who also battling to stay in contention in SA Conference.

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4 years 10 months ago #25 by mackem
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The Handicap, live from 21:00 on Thursday 16th May





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4 years 10 months ago #26 by ThoughtsOnSports
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Hey threepeat

Evening kick offs on the coast are synonymous with low scoring games. The conditions are just a little tricky for running rugby and the games are generally a bit tighter. Sanders used altitude against the Bulls last weekend. Usually points lines for coast games are in the high 40s. I see the points line for this game has come out at 55.5 so am firing under on that. Sanders points at 33.5 which I have gone under on.

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4 years 10 months ago #27 by Overs_Punter
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Betx have come out with some crazy points quotes for the weekend, absolutely piled in

Under 57.5 @ 0.86/1 in the Reds v Tahs
Tahs under 29.5 @ 0.78/1

Under 55.5 @ 0.86/1 in the storm v Saders game

Landers over 28.5 @ 0.86/1 - this one more or less correct but fancy landers to cover this with ease

Treble at just under 6/1
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4 years 10 months ago #28 by mackem
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Saders team:

David Havili, Sevu Reece, Jack Goodhue, Ryan Crotty, George Bridge, Richie Mo'unga, Bryn Hall, Kieran Read, Matt Todd, Ethan Blackadder, Sam Whitelock (captain), Scott Barrett, Michael Alaalatoa, Codie Taylor, George Bower.

Reserves: Andrew Makalio, Harry Allan, Oliver Jager, Luke Romano, Jordan Taufua, Mitchell Drummond, Mitch Hunt, Braydon Ennor.

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4 years 10 months ago #29 by mackem
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Couch Critic's preview with best bets and specials for every match in Round 14

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4 years 10 months ago #30 by coil
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Honda fook lads , don't give the bookies too much of a heads up with them points calls .....

Game 1 Im pretty much all in on the Jags plus 16.5 and 14.5 at 7/10 and 15/20 from earlier in the week. Expecting jags to name a strong side and expecting no B Barrett.

Game 2 Rebels vs Bulls, I'm beginning to warm to the Bull's , I just don't rate the Rebels overall and feel they have plenty of weaknesses . Having said that the Bulls themselves are full of weaknesses and were atrocious last week in PTA but I feel they could enjoy this game away from home , will be looking for the best plus around and possibly look to punt them on the cap in running if the Rebels start well.

Game 3 The Blues are favourites against the Chiefs and them starting favourites always rings the alarm bells . To be fair they do deserve to be as they have improved a lot this season.

A tough game this with the cap well placed , I probably would have gotten on the Chiefs at plus 7.5 or so and I might have an in play position here ..

Game 4 The reds host the tahs who return from their tour . I missed the plus 4.5 reds early in the week and as a result no bet as yet . I do think it could go either way and might even include the draw in my thinking at 20/1 and better .

Game 5 Lions host the Highlanders in Joburg and I think the majority agree that the Highlanders are the right ones ... i managed to get some plus 2.5 early in the week. No warren whitely is huge and although the Highlanders might not be the most reliable and consistent of teams their off load game should prove too much for the hosts.

Game 6 Finally the Stormers host a formidable Crusaders side .. I'm confident teh Stormers will stay within the handicap and also feel they could give the Kiwi's a scare.

Play well

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4 years 10 months ago #31 by ThoughtsOnSports
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Fully in Overs_Punter camp with those points lines - lots of loot on the line.

Eyeing out a lot of 1-12 margins this weekend at good odds. Here are my plays for the weekend:

Canes vs Jags
No BB and strong Jags team translates into them beating the cap.
Canes 1-12
Jags +14.5

Reds vs Tahs
Reds have been strong at home against a Tahs side returning from an unsuccessful run in SA.
Reds +5.5
Reds 1-12
Tahs under 29.5 points
Total points under 57.5

Blues vs Chiefs
Blues have been unpredictable this year but there home form remains strong.
Blues -2.5
Blues 1-12

Lions vs Landers
3pm kickoff. Rasta as ref. Altitude. Clear conditions.
Landers over 13.5 first half points.
Landers over 28.5 total points
Landers 1-12
Landers +3.5

Stormers vs Saders
Second home for the Saders against a rested Stormers side. I expect Storm to beat the cap.
Saders 1-12
Storms +14.5
under 55.5 total points

No plays so far on Bulls-Rebels but would lean towards the best Bulls cap.

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4 years 10 months ago #32 by southpaw
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that's very good to see such early points lines from an SA Bookie. I gave up on Betx when they changed their site, it was just so poor to use. Withdrew all funds last year.

But if they're going to come out with early points lines like that then might be tempted back in, poor site or not.

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4 years 10 months ago #33 by Brazil
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southpaw wrote: that's very good to see such early points lines from an SA Bookie. I gave up on Betx when they changed their site, it was just so poor to use. Withdrew all funds last year.

But if they're going to come out with early points lines like that then might be tempted back in, poor site or not.


Did the same ,couldn't take that trojan horse website any more,what a pain.
You have to wait and then click the chat icon out every time one loads their site ,then eliminate a few more more floating UFO's.Then the site jumps and squirms every time you click for a market,what a pain.Have to use my mobile in order to access it quicker.

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4 years 10 months ago #34 by Brad Breath
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Some tricky fixtures this weekend, not too much I'm overly strong on.

Thoroughly enjoy 'The Handicap' - watch it every week but rarely get to watch it live, which I did tonight.
Thanks lads - keep up the great work.
(Didn't help me much betting wise though, with the exception of the Blues now being a banker Brent, lol)

Bets placed so far Jags +16 and lesser amounts of both Reds +3 & Landers +1.

Sadly no points lines up in Europe for Saturday games yet, feel any value may've gone when they're up, but will be keeping an eye out.

Probably skip Rebels v Bulls, unsure on Blues v Chiefs, will likely go Blues 1-12.
And might go against the grain with Saders points and/or minus cap.

In the Pro14 semis (Glasgow v Ulster and Leinster v Munster) I just can't see either of the home team favourites losing.
As such have Glasgow and Leinster win double @ 1.80
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4 years 10 months ago #35 by threepeat
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Thanks for the shout out on the Handicap Brent. Have followed your first choice on Golf for PGA winner ;- ) Yes I watched it this week! The two of you were convincing on the golf preview.

I am in the same waka as the panel on the possibility of a Jag upset and have added to my stake on Jags +15.5 with the TAB NZ promotion - only small bet allowed, but bullet proof? @ $4.90 = $147 return

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4 years 10 months ago #36 by Brent Graham
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Good to have you watching live Brad and Threepeat, Threepeat hope you enjoyed those poached eggs!

I like the Jags plus but probably going to go with unders in Stormers game (if still there) as the best bet for the weekly e-mail

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4 years 10 months ago #37 by hanrick
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On Jaguares +13.5 at 10/11 from earlier in the week. Also a small bet Jaguares to win the game and under 60.5 points in the game at 7/1.

Points plays, strong bet on Hurricanes under 33.5 points at 8/10 and in Rebels vs Bulls game under 6.5 tries at 15/20

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4 years 10 months ago #38 by southpaw
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Canes 1-12 onto either side by 7 or less in Bulls game @ 13/2

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4 years 10 months ago #39 by bradie82
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Gonna go with the usual suspects once again as it has been a golden mine the past few weeks but lower stake as less confident (all bet on Bwin)

Try before 15" @ 1.60 (Canes vs Jag) and @ 1.80 (Rebels vs Bulls)

Adding over 49.5 @ 1.80 on the rebels game

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4 years 10 months ago #40 by landrews77
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Hi, I really start to feel more confident about the Highlanders in Jo'burg. Each time when Max taken over the captaincy, the Lions plays like crap. I feel the Max and Rasta factor will swing this game in the Landers favour.

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4 years 10 months ago #41 by Overs_Punter
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Under 33.5 Canes points 8/10
Under 4.5 canes tries 9/10
Bulls under 2.5 tries 17/20
Bulls/Rebels under 6.5 tries 17/20

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4 years 10 months ago #42 by southpaw
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for a first try interest Fifita 22/1

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4 years 10 months ago #43 by Ruan Fourie
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southpaw wrote: for a first try interest Fifita 22/1


Wow, how on earth did you know that one? Nicely done.

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4 years 10 months ago #44 by hanrick
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southpaw wrote: for a first try interest Fifita 22/1


Very well played, South

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4 years 10 months ago #45 by southpaw
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Ruan Fourie wrote:

southpaw wrote: for a first try interest Fifita 22/1


Wow, how on earth did you know that one? Nicely done.


shot lads and would like to say a lot of studying went into pick but really just thought with Savea moved to 8 one of the flanks might get over instead early. Couldn't believe it when seen him out wide to get to that ball.

Had placed bet about 10 min before ko and was looking for a Jaguares player to also post but just went with Fifita as nothing stood out.

Great start to weekend, and Jags playing superb.

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4 years 10 months ago #46 by southpaw
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hanrick wrote: On Jaguares +13.5 at 10/11 from earlier in the week. Also a small bet Jaguares to win the game and under 60.5 points in the game at 7/1.

Points plays, strong bet on Hurricanes under 33.5 points at 8/10 and in Rebels vs Bulls game under 6.5 tries at 15/20


superb calls especially the 7/1 shout.:beer
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4 years 10 months ago #47 by Brad Breath
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Bulls +7.5 @ 1.80

Under 6.5 tries @ 1.86

And a beer on Pollard 1st try @ 41

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4 years 10 months ago #48 by southpaw
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I do like to back 1st Half points for a teams first game on tour, just always seems to be a good vibe for most sides.

Bulls over 10.5 1st half @ 19/20

1st try Brits 20/1

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4 years 10 months ago #49 by alike
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Bulls are looking tired. Their tactic is clear: they put in a massive defensive shift and then rely on Pollard to clear their lines. It's not going to last. I am putting a hefty sum on Rebels to win the match.

Game: Melbourne Rebels vs Blue Bulls
Market: Match Result
Selection: Melbourne Rebels @ 1.96

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4 years 10 months ago #50 by bradie82
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Rebels +2.5 @ 1.72 (Bwin)

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