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The 6 Nations got off to a cracking start last week and here are the fixtures with early handicaps and my early thoughts
Ireland -32.5 v Italy - Ireland will be looking for a big win but despite the big loss to England I was actually quite impressed with Italy.
England -11.5 v Wales - I am thinking this could be a close game, possibly England 1-12
Scotland -5.5 v France - tough one, from what I saw last week France not without a chance here
The Kings and Cheetahs are both in Pro 14 action this weekend.
Ireland -32.5 v Italy - Ireland will be looking for a big win but despite the big loss to England I was actually quite impressed with Italy.
England -11.5 v Wales - I am thinking this could be a close game, possibly England 1-12
Scotland -5.5 v France - tough one, from what I saw last week France not without a chance here
The Kings and Cheetahs are both in Pro 14 action this weekend.
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Less than a week without Allister Coetzee as bok coach and the boks move up in the world rankings 
www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/toeti...in-rankings-20180205
www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/toeti...in-rankings-20180205
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Haven't looked at the Pro14 recently but can anyone explain to me how the Dragons are favorites vs Glasgow this weekend?
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17 Glasgow players in 6 nations squad, 3 Dragons.
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The Missing Link wrote: Haven't looked at the Pro14 recently but can anyone explain to me how the Dragons are favorites vs Glasgow this weekend?
17 Glasgow players in 6 nations squad, 3 Dragons.
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Thanks, will stick to varsity cup not up to date with this comp
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southpaw wrote:
The Missing Link wrote: Haven't looked at the Pro14 recently but can anyone explain to me how the Dragons are favorites vs Glasgow this weekend?
17 Glasgow players in 6 nations squad, 3 Dragons.
Thanks, will stick to varsity cup not up to date with this comp
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It's silly season in the Pro 14. I'm all over the Dragons this weekend. As Southpaw rightly points out they're not that badly affected by the 6 Nations at all and Glasgow are absolutely decimated.
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Agree with your summation of the Ireland Italy game. As an Irish man Ireland were pretty average on Saturday(albeit in pretty awful conditions). Italy were a little unlucky to ship as many points as they did but for them to be doing that it this early stage in the competition wold worry me a little from their perspective(even if it was arguably the best side in the competition). Don't underestimate the effect a day less rest also takes on the body in this competition. I think the bookies have set a pretty shrewd handicap. The weather is meant to be wet enough and the atmosphere in the Aviva for 2 o'clock kick offs can be pretty tame for the first half hour or so. I'd prob go for Italy +31 if I had to but will decide closer to the time.
I think England could smash Wales. Don't fooled by the score against Scotland. They're not nearly as good as that.
Finally I'm going to go with Scotland to beat France by more than 5.
I think England could smash Wales. Don't fooled by the score against Scotland. They're not nearly as good as that.
Finally I'm going to go with Scotland to beat France by more than 5.
Brent Graham wrote: The 6 Nations got off to a cracking start last week and here are the fixtures with early handicaps and my early thoughts
Ireland -32.5 v Italy - Ireland will be looking for a big win but despite the big loss to England I was actually quite impressed with Italy.
England -11.5 v Wales - I am thinking this could be a close game, possibly England 1-12
Scotland -5.5 v France - tough one, from what I saw last week France not without a chance here
The Kings and Cheetahs are both in Pro 14 action this weekend.
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Anybody on the Brisbane 10s? 
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Early plays are
Ireland -37 vs Italy @ 2/1 2.5 units
England -10 vs Wales @ evens 1.5 units
Ireland -37 vs Italy @ 2/1 2.5 units
England -10 vs Wales @ evens 1.5 units
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I reckon Chiefs are worth a shot outright. Arguably a stronger squad than last year whilst most other teams are sending weaker squads. Saders/Canes much weaker, Highlanders decent forwards but not too much in the backline, Blues actually look ok but hard to take them seriously with 42 year old Carlos Spencer as their only 10. Aus teams look a joke. Pau and Panasonic actually decent longshots, Panasonic did really well last year and Pau have a lot of stars.
Chiefs to me clearly have the most dangerous backline though.
TTT/McKenzie(Marty)/Ngatai/TNW/Pulu/Stevenson/Alaimalo to choose from. Brought a strong group of loose forwards too, front row nothing special but no weaker than last year.
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bradie82 wrote: Anybody on the Brisbane 10s?
I reckon Chiefs are worth a shot outright. Arguably a stronger squad than last year whilst most other teams are sending weaker squads. Saders/Canes much weaker, Highlanders decent forwards but not too much in the backline, Blues actually look ok but hard to take them seriously with 42 year old Carlos Spencer as their only 10. Aus teams look a joke. Pau and Panasonic actually decent longshots, Panasonic did really well last year and Pau have a lot of stars.
Chiefs to me clearly have the most dangerous backline though.
TTT/McKenzie(Marty)/Ngatai/TNW/Pulu/Stevenson/Alaimalo to choose from. Brought a strong group of loose forwards too, front row nothing special but no weaker than last year.
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Early caps out for the two African Conference games on weekend 1:
Stormers (-10.5) v Jaguares
Lions (-7.5) v Sharks
Stormers (-10.5) v Jaguares
Lions (-7.5) v Sharks
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Thanks Oracle for the previews
Just one thing : Cardiff is in Wales, not Scotland (B)
Just one thing : Cardiff is in Wales, not Scotland (B)
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For those interested in the Pro 14 games I've seen the Leinster team and it is not exceptionally strong. The play Edinburgh in Scotland this Friday. They are -8 with Paddy Power book makers at present but I could actually see Edinburgh winning the game. They are not nearly as affected as leinster with the 6 nations. I'm going to put a punt on Edinburgh +8 at the very least
Leinster team is 1.Dooley 2. Strauss 3. Bent. 4. Moloney. 5. Fardy 6. Connors 7. Josh Murphy 8. Deegan 9. Gibson-Park 10. Byrne 11. Daly 12. Reid 13. Nacewa 14. O'Loughlin 15. Dave Kearney
Leinster team is 1.Dooley 2. Strauss 3. Bent. 4. Moloney. 5. Fardy 6. Connors 7. Josh Murphy 8. Deegan 9. Gibson-Park 10. Byrne 11. Daly 12. Reid 13. Nacewa 14. O'Loughlin 15. Dave Kearney
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Sadly working Friday and Saturday and will be watching from a distance.
I def fancy another good showing from France , they have a very good record against Scotland besides last year. If there are not too many injuries and not too many changes I fancy them to go very close if not win. That would mean Scotland would be gone and all expectations gone up in smoke. I expect Scotland to come out smoking but feel France could squeeze the life outa them.
Pro 14 and Aviva looks harder and team selections so important , hoping we can get the value once they're announced and before the books change their prices accordingly.
I def fancy another good showing from France , they have a very good record against Scotland besides last year. If there are not too many injuries and not too many changes I fancy them to go very close if not win. That would mean Scotland would be gone and all expectations gone up in smoke. I expect Scotland to come out smoking but feel France could squeeze the life outa them.
Pro 14 and Aviva looks harder and team selections so important , hoping we can get the value once they're announced and before the books change their prices accordingly.
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Put a double on earlier this week, Ireland -28 into Wales +12.
I see the lrish line has drifted out to -34 or -35 now.
Reminds me of similar scenario this time last year, when they lost to Scotland in the first game up.
They then destroyed the Italians in Rome the following weekend 10 - 63.
This time round they are at home.
I see the weather forecast doesn't look too flash, which given their lacklustre attack last week in the wet is perhaps a mild concern.
Have had a decent strike at the Wales plus also. Yes, completely different class of opposition from last week, but their recent record in Twickenham isn't too bad. Would be a surprise if they won (although I have had a small stab at Wales 1-12 @ 6) but fully expecting the game to be close.
I see the lrish line has drifted out to -34 or -35 now.
Reminds me of similar scenario this time last year, when they lost to Scotland in the first game up.
They then destroyed the Italians in Rome the following weekend 10 - 63.
This time round they are at home.
I see the weather forecast doesn't look too flash, which given their lacklustre attack last week in the wet is perhaps a mild concern.
Have had a decent strike at the Wales plus also. Yes, completely different class of opposition from last week, but their recent record in Twickenham isn't too bad. Would be a surprise if they won (although I have had a small stab at Wales 1-12 @ 6) but fully expecting the game to be close.
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According to the Irish Indo this is the likely team for Saturday;
Possible Ireland team v Italy: R Kearney; K Earls, R Henshaw, B Aki, J Stockdale; J Sexton, C Murray; J McGrath, R Best (capt), T Furlong; I Henderson, D Toner; P O'Mahony, D Leavy, J Conan. Replacements: S Cronin/R Herring, C Healy, A Porter, Q Roux, CJ Stander, K Marmion, J Carbery, J Larmour.
I genuinely think that the handicap is too high considering it is meant to be wet. There are 4 changes made in the pack. If it's drifted to +34 or 35 then I'd happily take that punt.
I'd also take Italy +15 upwards 1st half if i could get that. Apparently they conceded 50% of all 6 nations points scored in the competition in their second halves last year.
Possible Ireland team v Italy: R Kearney; K Earls, R Henshaw, B Aki, J Stockdale; J Sexton, C Murray; J McGrath, R Best (capt), T Furlong; I Henderson, D Toner; P O'Mahony, D Leavy, J Conan. Replacements: S Cronin/R Herring, C Healy, A Porter, Q Roux, CJ Stander, K Marmion, J Carbery, J Larmour.
I genuinely think that the handicap is too high considering it is meant to be wet. There are 4 changes made in the pack. If it's drifted to +34 or 35 then I'd happily take that punt.
I'd also take Italy +15 upwards 1st half if i could get that. Apparently they conceded 50% of all 6 nations points scored in the competition in their second halves last year.
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I got rolled with last weeks 6N picks so a little nervous about Round 2 but here goes with the first preview
England v Wales preview
3.5 units (1 to 10 scale) England -10.5 points 9/10 Betway
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3.5 units (1 to 10 scale) England -10.5 points 9/10 Betway
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Sunday, Scotland v France,
preview here
Not many 1-12 markets around locally right now, 3 units (1-10 scale) Scot win 1-12 pts is 14/10 at WSB
Not many 1-12 markets around locally right now, 3 units (1-10 scale) Scot win 1-12 pts is 14/10 at WSB
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Back to Saturday for Ireland v Italy and
a couple of cheeky plays in this preview
2 units Away team no try scorer 22/10 WSB
0.5 units Home team to “win to nil” 80/1 WSB
2 units Away team no try scorer 22/10 WSB
0.5 units Home team to “win to nil” 80/1 WSB
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I think the French will beat the Scots the weekend. Bet of the weekend has gotta be England -6 second half and kings plus 32. Ulster is missing a few players playing for Ireland. England selected a strong bench which they will bring on after 60 minutes. Let’s see how the weekend turns out. I think in the pro 14 and premiership you will see a few upsets starting with Northampton beating bath and then Edinburgh beating Leinster.
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England -10.5 - This should be the most predictable of the 6 nations games
Kings +31.5 - Looks like good value for money(But its still the kings )
Kings +31.5 - Looks like good value for money(But its still the kings
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Agree with Vrystaat and Wies Bang on the Kings - they can beat the cap. Personally leaning Wales on the plus but can be influenced and I reckon Scotland v France will be close.
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With you guys on the Kings although I don't like their back three that much. Took +32.5 @ 9/10
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England -10.5
Kings +32.5
Edinburgh +7.5
Ireland -31
Those are mine for the weekend ... but bet accordingly with the form I am in
Kings +32.5
Edinburgh +7.5
Ireland -31
Those are mine for the weekend ... but bet accordingly with the form I am in
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I am adding the caps for the following week
Highlanders (-6.5) v Blues
Rebels (-4.5) v Reds
Wolves (+16.5) v Brumbies
Crusaders (-7.5) v Chiefs
Waratahs (-8.5) v Stormers
Lions (-15.5) v Jaguares
Bulls (+13.5) v Hurricanes
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Cettas wrote: Early caps out for the two African Conference games on weekend 1:
Stormers (-10.5) v Jaguares
Lions (-7.5) v Sharks
I am adding the caps for the following week
Highlanders (-6.5) v Blues
Rebels (-4.5) v Reds
Wolves (+16.5) v Brumbies
Crusaders (-7.5) v Chiefs
Waratahs (-8.5) v Stormers
Lions (-15.5) v Jaguares
Bulls (+13.5) v Hurricanes
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Bath v Northampton
Over 42.5 @ 1.85
Ulster v Kings - At Sportingbet
Over 5.5 tries @ 1.70
Hopefully both games open up
Over 42.5 @ 1.85
Ulster v Kings - At Sportingbet
Over 5.5 tries @ 1.70
Hopefully both games open up
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That one is golden as it is 7.5 everywhere
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Cettas wrote: Ulster v Kings
Over 5.5 tries @ 1.70
That one is golden as it is 7.5 everywhere
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Ospreys tonight at +12.5 (+11 generally) looks very good value. Ospreys need to win this and have nine internationals in the side
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Kings +29.5
Saints +5.5
Edinburgh +9.5
Ospreys +15.5
acca @ 13/2
Saints +5.5
Edinburgh +9.5
Ospreys +15.5
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Scotland outright, Ireland -31.5, England -10.5 all to come for me. Ireland to win to nil at 6to1 a little nibble too.
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As a proud Welshman..i'm afraid that England will cover the handicap of 11.5...why.....well they can take out two potential 'irritants' this weekend and leave space and time for the showdown with Ireland..... Scotland out of the equation..Wales out of the equation......us versus ireland with no pressure for weeks
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Ireland 2nd half handicap -19.5 onto England 2nd half handicap -6.5 at 24/10 with GG Gaming
Ireland try handicap of 4 (have to score 5 or more tries more than Italy) onto England to win at 9/10 with Betway
Ireland try handicap of 4 (have to score 5 or more tries more than Italy) onto England to win at 9/10 with Betway
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Italy under 11.5 points at 17/20
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Live a mile from Lansdowen road and the sun is out. I’m now firmly on the Irish -34 result. I think they’ll thump them and wouldn’t be surprised if Italy don’t score a try.
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Just done a 20 mile training run past England team hotel and then about 10 miles within Twickenham and the last hour was foul. Freezing cold wind and some very light swirling rain.
Will wait to see what conditions look like closer to kick off.
Will wait to see what conditions look like closer to kick off.
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Good info chaps
Ireland -33.5
Wales + 11.5
France win
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Ireland -33.5
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Think we’re looking at the worst team to ever play in the 6 nations. I can’t believe how bad Italy are.
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You can get Italy over 0.5 points at 1.727 at Sportingbet at the moment. The problem is it really doesn't look like they are going to score any points.
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6 years 2 months ago #41
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You are 100% right Ruan, it does not look like it, it looks race over, they might as well pay me out at HTRuan Fourie wrote: You can get Italy over 0.5 points at 1.727 at Sportingbet at the moment. The problem is it really doesn't look like they are going to score any points.
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6 years 2 months ago #42
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Wow Ireland are bad. Didn't think they are this bad.
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6 years 2 months ago #43
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Halfpenny ruled out for Wales.
Looks like it will be wet, at very least slipper surface. But at 13.5 Wales shirts just too low for me, i'm sucked in.
High Wales shirts @ 13.5
Looks like it will be wet, at very least slipper surface. But at 13.5 Wales shirts just too low for me, i'm sucked in.
High Wales shirts @ 13.5
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6 years 2 months ago #44
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Cheetahs 7/4 outright. The synthetic pitch should be like a firm surface in Bloem or away at Griquas, should hopefully be something they take too quite well.
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6 years 2 months ago #45
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From a neutral point of view I've really enjoyed the England Wales game, Anscombe has been real quality. One thing though, I really hope the video referee has to answer for his decision in the first half, there is no excuse for that and really shouldn't be involved in professional games again.
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6 years 2 months ago - 6 years 2 months ago #46
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Obscure one for tomorrow, fancy the Italian women +14.5 vs Ireland. Ireland were awful during the world cup last year at home and got hammered by France last week. The Italians will fancy their chances, even a small nibble at win outright @5/1.
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6 years 2 months ago #47
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Absolutely shocking and he even had a super slo-Mo to see the try. Cost me.
Need Cheetahs to get me back square.
Need Cheetahs to get me back square.
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6 years 2 months ago #48
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Having a nibble at the french women @-27.5 vs the Scots. Scotland didn't even make the world cup and France have named a very strong team.
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6 years 2 months ago #49
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These women have no coordination, they butcher our great game. Maybe they should change the rules for them so they can just throw the ball forward willy-nilly. It's easy to sound sexist when talking about this but I would urge anyone to steer clear of punting on the women's game. It's infuriatingly shit.
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6 years 2 months ago #50
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I took a hammering yesterday going Italy under 1.5 tries and also over 41.5 in England game - as it happened the weather forecast I saw for Dublin on the Friday was well off the mark and the poor conditions I was expecting didn't materialize
Based on recent history the u42.5 looks good in Scotland v France but will get an accurate view of conditions before getting involved.
Based on recent history the u42.5 looks good in Scotland v France but will get an accurate view of conditions before getting involved.
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