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U20 Championship 2018
Pool A Preview:
www.worldrugby.org/u20/news/336304?lang=en
Pool B Preview:
www.worldrugby.org/u20/news/336621?lang=en
Pool C Preview:
www.worldrugby.org/u20/news/336622?lang=en
Pool A Preview:
www.worldrugby.org/u20/news/336304?lang=en
Pool B Preview:
www.worldrugby.org/u20/news/336621?lang=en
Pool C Preview:
www.worldrugby.org/u20/news/336622?lang=en
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First nugget: Georgia U20'S lost their last prep match to an England Counties U20 team in Tblisi a fortnight ago. Difficult to assess exactly....but if they couldn't beat a representative side like that then they sure are going to struggle against the Boks....worth noting anyway....
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First price to come out overseas is -30 for that Junior Bok vs Georgia game.
It's all about seeding in this Cup.How the teams are selected into their pools from the last tournament.
Then the 4th seed out of the 3 pools also gets a semi-final berth behind the 3 pool winners.
NZ are -63 vs Japan.
England -19 vs Argies ,suppose because Argies finished 11th last year.
France -17 vs Ireland
Italy -4 vs Scots
Australia vs Wales -10
What's tough on viewing in 2018 are three round robin games on at the same time.
It's all about seeding in this Cup.How the teams are selected into their pools from the last tournament.
Then the 4th seed out of the 3 pools also gets a semi-final berth behind the 3 pool winners.
NZ are -63 vs Japan.
England -19 vs Argies ,suppose because Argies finished 11th last year.
France -17 vs Ireland
Italy -4 vs Scots
Australia vs Wales -10
What's tough on viewing in 2018 are three round robin games on at the same time.
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Its always been like that. Far and away the most ludicrously organized tournament on the planet. Maybe someone like The Oracle could send them the schedule for the FIFA World Cup footie with a little explanation " The world now has a seeing/talking screen called TV". Why not try joining the rest of us in the 21st century?
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What's tough on viewing in 2018 are three round robin games on at the same time.
Its always been like that. Far and away the most ludicrously organized tournament on the planet. Maybe someone like The Oracle could send them the schedule for the FIFA World Cup footie with a little explanation " The world now has a seeing/talking screen called TV". Why not try joining the rest of us in the 21st century?
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They last kind-of had three games simultaneously in 2013.Since then the games have been interspersed and last year there was only two venues in Georgia.
One huge change this year is no stand up tackle.I did notice players just running slap bang into each other last year,now the tackler has to bend at the waist.
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Brazil wrote:
What's tough on viewing in 2018 are three round robin games on at the same time.
Its always been like that. Far and away the most ludicrously organized tournament on the planet. Maybe someone like The Oracle could send them the schedule for the FIFA World Cup footie with a little explanation " The world now has a seeing/talking screen called TV". Why not try joining the rest of us in the 21st century?
They last kind-of had three games simultaneously in 2013.Since then the games have been interspersed and last year there was only two venues in Georgia.
One huge change this year is no stand up tackle.I did notice players just running slap bang into each other last year,now the tackler has to bend at the waist.
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In general, the bookies are very slow in coming out with prices. Saw PaddyPower just put up some lines:
England -19 v Argentina
Italy -4 v Scotland
South Africa -30 v Georgia
Australia -10 v Wales
France -17 v Ireland
NZ -63 v Japan
I have to say, based solely on pre-season warm-ups and six nations they look spot on.
Will have to see what WSB comes out with but at this stage I only fancy Australia. I'm also not sure what effect this new tackle rule will have - will we see a lot of penalties and so on? Would think the bigger teams would have had more time and thought going into to that - so teams like Georgia and Japan will probably struggle to adapt.
I also found some tournament odds from Ladbrokes Australia:
NZ 2/1
England 4/1
France 5/1
South Africa 5/1
Australia 17/1
Ireland 100/1
Italy / Scotland / Wales 250/1
Argentina / Georgia 500/1
Japan 1000/1
On the odds and groups - England probably expected to come out 1st, NZ 2nd, SA / France 3rd. 4th place is best loser like last year - Between Australia, SA, France for me.
England -19 v Argentina
Italy -4 v Scotland
South Africa -30 v Georgia
Australia -10 v Wales
France -17 v Ireland
NZ -63 v Japan
I have to say, based solely on pre-season warm-ups and six nations they look spot on.
Will have to see what WSB comes out with but at this stage I only fancy Australia. I'm also not sure what effect this new tackle rule will have - will we see a lot of penalties and so on? Would think the bigger teams would have had more time and thought going into to that - so teams like Georgia and Japan will probably struggle to adapt.
I also found some tournament odds from Ladbrokes Australia:
NZ 2/1
England 4/1
France 5/1
South Africa 5/1
Australia 17/1
Ireland 100/1
Italy / Scotland / Wales 250/1
Argentina / Georgia 500/1
Japan 1000/1
On the odds and groups - England probably expected to come out 1st, NZ 2nd, SA / France 3rd. 4th place is best loser like last year - Between Australia, SA, France for me.
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I like the Baby Boks this year although they have a very tough group including France and Ireland
I think they will put Georgia to the sword and will take the -30.5
I think they will put Georgia to the sword and will take the -30.5
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Two tournament picks for me - Think I'll wait till everyone has had a game before taking any caps.
France @ 5/1
Australia @ 20/1
France @ 5/1
Australia @ 20/1
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Hey gents,
Think there is great value in the Baby Boks to cover the cap tomorrow afternoon, Damian Willemse is going to win player of the tournament.
I will also be having a small at Scotland to keep within the cap and possibly win the game at 14/10.
Think there is great value in the Baby Boks to cover the cap tomorrow afternoon, Damian Willemse is going to win player of the tournament.
I will also be having a small at Scotland to keep within the cap and possibly win the game at 14/10.
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"No team is as good or as bad as their last game."
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I've jumped on the -30.5. See it's already -38.5 in places.
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I've played Over 30.5 but slightly worried about the Georgian will...not to lose their place in the seedings...will be a very interested player in running here...
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I see Sunbet have -31.5 still
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My bets for tonight
SA -33.5 onto England -19.5 double
NZ -62.5 onto France -16.5 double
SA -33.5 onto England -19.5 double
NZ -62.5 onto France -16.5 double
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Many thanks to Oracle for his preview of Day 1.
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Caps are dropping on few games and I will wait a bit longer before making any move as will be more interested in some over.
On top of it, there is a high risk of rain and even thunderstorm in the south of France but will try to post an update once it get closer to kick off
On top of it, there is a high risk of rain and even thunderstorm in the south of France but will try to post an update once it get closer to kick off
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where's the +38.5?
see plenty -31.5 still - sun, mobi, t&ball, egoli
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shaft wrote: I've jumped on the -30.5. See it's already -38.5 in places.
where's the +38.5?
see plenty -31.5 still - sun, mobi, t&ball, egoli
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All of sunbet, betx and interbet had 38.5 last night.
"No team is as good or as bad as their last game."
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shaft wrote: I've jumped on the -30.5. See it's already -38.5 in places.
where's the +38.5?
see plenty -31.5 still - sun, mobi, t&ball, egoli
All of sunbet, betx and interbet had 38.5 last night.
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Any update on the weather?
Have seen some point lines starting to appear
Have seen some point lines starting to appear
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Bit disappointing that the bookmakers have generally fought shy of this tournament so far. Understandable perhaps, as their ricks usually come in the opening games. Hardly any tryscorer bets available.
One spread bet that appeals to me is a buy of the try minutes of the England substitutes against Argentina. This is priced at 53 to buy with Spreadex. I expect England to use their subs bench as fully as possible, so any try from the likes of Gabriel Ibitoye would yield profit.
Slightly tempted by skybet offering France with only a 14 point handicap with everyone else going -17 and above, but the patchy weather forecast and big pressure on the host side tempers enthusiasm.
One spread bet that appeals to me is a buy of the try minutes of the England substitutes against Argentina. This is priced at 53 to buy with Spreadex. I expect England to use their subs bench as fully as possible, so any try from the likes of Gabriel Ibitoye would yield profit.
Slightly tempted by skybet offering France with only a 14 point handicap with everyone else going -17 and above, but the patchy weather forecast and big pressure on the host side tempers enthusiasm.
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Hi Cettas
For the Eng v Arg game in Narbonne, there is slight chance of rain but very hard to say at this time - its not raining at the moment
For the Sco v Ita game in Beziers, there is slight chance of rain but very hard to say at this time - its not raining at the moment - link to webcam below
www.beziers-in-mediterranee.com/en/valra...age-s-webcam-seaside
For the SA v Geo game in Perpignan, it should not rain- its not raining at the moment – link to webcam below
www.perpignantourisme.com/decouvrir/live...sthash.BVrIKmmv.dpbs
Looking at the cap it seems like bookies don’t expect any rain this afternoon
Looks like its gonna rain everywhere tonight
For the Eng v Arg game in Narbonne, there is slight chance of rain but very hard to say at this time - its not raining at the moment
For the Sco v Ita game in Beziers, there is slight chance of rain but very hard to say at this time - its not raining at the moment - link to webcam below
www.beziers-in-mediterranee.com/en/valra...age-s-webcam-seaside
For the SA v Geo game in Perpignan, it should not rain- its not raining at the moment – link to webcam below
www.perpignantourisme.com/decouvrir/live...sthash.BVrIKmmv.dpbs
Looking at the cap it seems like bookies don’t expect any rain this afternoon
Looks like its gonna rain everywhere tonight
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Skybet has France-14 @ 1.91 while its 18/19 elsewhere
Even if I have a doubt that France will smash the Irish despite few key players missing, I cannot not take a bit of it
Even if I have a doubt that France will smash the Irish despite few key players missing, I cannot not take a bit of it
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Quick update – seems like its raining slightly in Perpignan but still good in Beziers and Narbonne
For Narbonne I use this website – not the best but gives an idea
www.narbonne-tourism.co.uk/narbonne-uk/p...ms/centre-historique
For Narbonne I use this website – not the best but gives an idea
www.narbonne-tourism.co.uk/narbonne-uk/p...ms/centre-historique
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Nice one Bradie here for Perpigan
www.webcams.travel/webcam/1466200985-per...place-françois-arago
Click on the screen and one see's the weather as it's changed.
Also like that 20/1 on Aussie, Vann,they stand a good chance of the 4th seed place ,with Japan also in their group.
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bradie82 wrote: Quick update – seems like its raining slightly in Perpignan but still good in Beziers and Narbonne
For Narbonne I use this website – not the best but gives an idea
www.narbonne-tourism.co.uk/narbonne-uk/p...ms/centre-historique
Nice one Bradie here for Perpigan
www.webcams.travel/webcam/1466200985-per...place-françois-arago
Click on the screen and one see's the weather as it's changed.
Also like that 20/1 on Aussie, Vann,they stand a good chance of the 4th seed place ,with Japan also in their group.
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Adding Baby Boks over 51.5 points at GGGaming
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Less than 20 minutes in and its all over...Jeez I hate big minus handicaps...grrr
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Agree , helped myself to a fair chunk of minus 31.5 grrr
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Thrasher6 wrote: Less than 20 minutes in and its all over...Jeez I hate big minus handicaps...grrr
Agree , helped myself to a fair chunk of minus 31.5 grrr
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Phew - England sub Marcus Smith scores at the death for a 27 points profit.
Wales have a nippy scrum half in Dane Blacker who is with Cardiff Blues. Hope he can do plenty of sniping against the Aussies and have taken 7/2 (Spreadex) for Blacker to score a try.
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labrador wrote: ..............................Hardly any tryscorer bets available.
One spread bet that appeals to me is a buy of the try minutes of the England substitutes against Argentina. This is priced at 53 to buy with Spreadex. I expect England to use their subs bench as fully as possible, so any try from the likes of Gabriel Ibitoye would yield profit.
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Phew
- England sub Marcus Smith scores at the death for a 27 points profit.Wales have a nippy scrum half in Dane Blacker who is with Cardiff Blues. Hope he can do plenty of sniping against the Aussies and have taken 7/2 (Spreadex) for Blacker to score a try.
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Baby Boks are useless - they won't make the last 4 and I will be looking to oppose them going forward
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Gone under 56.5 pts GGGaming in French game, ball looked a bit slippery earlier despite clear conditions and hoping for a scrappy one
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Ja , am going Ireland plus 19.5 in this one
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Brent Graham wrote: Gone under 56.5 pts GGGaming in French game, ball looked a bit slippery earlier despite clear conditions and hoping for a scrappy one
Ja , am going Ireland plus 19.5 in this one
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Well played Coiler, plus arrived with ease, I had to sweat on the unders a bit
See New Zealand put Japan away in wet conditions, wonder if they are that good or Japan that bad?
Here are my projected Match 2 handicaps
Scotland -3.5 v Argentina
Australia -39.5 v Japan
France -28.5 v Georgia
SA -5.5 v Ireland
NZL -27.5 v Wales
England -21.5 v Italy
See New Zealand put Japan away in wet conditions, wonder if they are that good or Japan that bad?
Here are my projected Match 2 handicaps
Scotland -3.5 v Argentina
Australia -39.5 v Japan
France -28.5 v Georgia
SA -5.5 v Ireland
NZL -27.5 v Wales
England -21.5 v Italy
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Caps for today...
13.00 Australia -38/-39/-40 v Japan +38/+39/+40 Total 59.5
13.00 France -27 to -30 v Georgia +27 to +30 Total 55.5
13.00 Scotland +10 v Argentina - 10 Total 53.5
15.30 England - 24 v Italy +24
15.30 New Zealand - 29 v Wales + 29 Total 62.5
15.30 South Africa _10 v Ireland + 10
Totals are from Spreadex...
Nothing shouts out at me....maybe Wales +29 but it's the All Blacks.
13.00 Australia -38/-39/-40 v Japan +38/+39/+40 Total 59.5
13.00 France -27 to -30 v Georgia +27 to +30 Total 55.5
13.00 Scotland +10 v Argentina - 10 Total 53.5
15.30 England - 24 v Italy +24
15.30 New Zealand - 29 v Wales + 29 Total 62.5
15.30 South Africa _10 v Ireland + 10
Totals are from Spreadex...
Nothing shouts out at me....maybe Wales +29 but it's the All Blacks.
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Taking Ireland on the plus, was not impressed with Baby Boks and thought Ireland were a bit unlucky against France
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Aus -38.5
France -27.5
Scot +10.5
England -18.5
NZ -24.5
15/1 acca.
France -27.5
Scot +10.5
England -18.5
NZ -24.5
15/1 acca.
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5 years 10 months ago #35
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Taken Japan over 10.5 points
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Great call Shaft....I was too late to bag it!!
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Georgia have done a lot of defending and French looking dangerous, 17-7 @ HT. Taken the -19.5 @ 17/20 at break.
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After looking at first 3 games today taking the underdogs on the plus handicap, on an accumulator at about 6.5 to 1.
So Italy, Wales and Ireland to beat their handicaps.
So Italy, Wales and Ireland to beat their handicaps.
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5 years 10 months ago #39
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Took 2/1'Ireland at the break, they finished the half strong
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When they hit the front I thought the cap at least was safe - read that wrong, the Baby Boks played very well in the last 30 and they cost me again
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5 years 10 months ago #41
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Caps are out for the round 3
Wales -32 v Japan
Ireland -10 v Georgia
Argentina -10 v Italy
NZ -25 v Australia
England -33 v Scotland
France -5 v SA
The SA + 5 seems like the spot on this round
Wales -32 v Japan
Ireland -10 v Georgia
Argentina -10 v Italy
NZ -25 v Australia
England -33 v Scotland
France -5 v SA
The SA + 5 seems like the spot on this round
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5 years 10 months ago #42
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Still waiting on some quotes from the SA bookies
Would be interesting to see what Eng does with team selection as they have already secured top spot in Pool B
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bradie82 wrote: Caps are out for the round 3
Wales -32 v Japan
Ireland -10 v Georgia
Argentina -10 v Italy
NZ -25 v Australia
England -33 v Scotland
France -5 v SA
The SA + 5 seems like the spot on this round
Still waiting on some quotes from the SA bookies
Would be interesting to see what Eng does with team selection as they have already secured top spot in Pool B
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The best part about this comp is that each team is seeded after the pool play. NZ look certainties as top seed with a points differential of 99, England have 59 and SA on 19. I think SA will beat France so that should make the top 3 seeds, then the biggest battle will be for the 4th seed (Best placed 2nd team) and of those the Argies have the easiest matchup against Italy. Really fancy Argies minus!
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Georgia @ 4/1 outright is too big, no?
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many thanks to Oracle for his preview of Matchday 3
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Hi lads , I think there could be a few surprises once again tonight . Logic has me leaning towards Georgia but are they really that much improved ? Going with the Bok's and now also Wales minus .
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Argentina over 1.5 tries HT @ 1.66
Ireland v Georgia - over 5.5 tries @1.53
Ireland v Georgia - over 5.5 tries @1.53
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A little double for the watch
Scotland +27.5 into SA win @ 6/1
Scotland +27.5 into SA win @ 6/1
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Caps are out
Wales +2.5 vs Argentina
Ireland -6.5 vs Scotland
Italy +6.5 vs Australia
Georgia -15.5 vs Japan
England -11.5 vs SA (BetX)
NZ -6.5 vs France
Early fancy is SA +11.5 at BetX
Wales +2.5 vs Argentina
Ireland -6.5 vs Scotland
Italy +6.5 vs Australia
Georgia -15.5 vs Japan
England -11.5 vs SA (BetX)
NZ -6.5 vs France
Early fancy is SA +11.5 at BetX
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Fancy Japan on the plus main bet , Australia minus and SA plus
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