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Brent tells me he would have capped the Currie Cup final at WP -7.5
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Or, they can find 23 new players maybe ?
Anyway, I'm in for a few units.
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Struggling to even pick my nose in the last couple of weeks, but by my reckoning that quote is far too high, so jumped on
Its now into +12
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www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/CurrieCup/cheeta...ation-match-20181023
The game needs to be played before month end as:
South Western Districts, like many of the other smaller unions in South Africa, earlier this year opted to contract their players only until October 30. This came after SA Rugby’s decision to cut the budgets of smaller unions by 52%. They cannot play the game after October 31 because their players will no longer have contracts and medical cover.
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Japan are coached by Jamie Joseph (the Highlanders coach when they won super rugby) and boast a strong starting line up. The World XV have some blockbuster names but with minimal preparation time, this handicap is overstated. I wouldn't be surprised about a Japan outright victory.
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ThoughtsOnSports wrote: Japan +24.5 vs World XV.
Japan are coached by Jamie Joseph (the Highlanders coach when they won super rugby) and boast a strong starting line up. The World XV have some blockbuster names but with minimal preparation time, this handicap is overstated. I wouldn't be surprised about a Japan outright victory.
was thinking similar when seen the teams. The Japan side is a strong one, they have a big game coming up against NZ and will want to impress. The +24 is miles off, totally agree that the win might also be on the cards. 10/1 !!!
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Brad Breath wrote: Betfair opened Kings +19 vs Scarlets (who will be without all their internationals)
Struggling to even pick my nose in the last couple of weeks, but by my reckoning that quote is far too high, so jumped on
Its now into +12
Thoughts lads?
Just seen the Ireland squad for their internationals: 17 players from Leinster; 10 from Munster; and 9 from Ulster; etc.
I reckon this is not a good time to be taking any bets on Pro14 outcomes. Anyone got advice on this ?
I'm so tired of throwing money at the bookies, but think it's not just me getting stuff wrong for the past few weeks...
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Tentative call, 3 units (1 to 10 scale) Australia +16.5 points 9/10 WSB, BetXchange
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Waikato and Auckland on the board.
Just under 15/10
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Murfin wrote: Keen to follow on the Japan +24 and the 10/1 on outright win. Which bookies of offering it?
I got on with Paddy in UK, +24 @ 10/11 to be exact and 10/1 win. Did see some +24.5 with WSB in SA but i can't get on there.
Worth keeping an eye out for other SA firms pricing up today although line has moved overnight and around 21.5 now and 8/1 outright. Still a punt in my view at that line.
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You have to love WSB or anyone who priced this game up ...
Bet365 have Japan v New Zealand on 3 November at Japan +21
So any trader doing a quick check would have gone overseas and made the mistake of thinking this was the Japan v World XV game ...
Those who got the +24.5 got massive value as that is just 3 points better than the same team against the All Blacks!
I somehow don't think the below team is 3 points "better" than the AB's
World XV
15 Nehe Milner Skudder (Hurricanes), 14 Toni Pulu (Chiefs), 13 Harold Vorster (Lions/Panasonic), 12 Ma’a Nonu (Blues, New Zealand), 11 Tevita Li (Highlanders), 10 Lionel Cronje (Toyota), 9 Andrew Ellis (Kobe, captain), 8 Leonardo Senatore (Jaguares), 7 Dillon Hunt (Highlanders), 6 Jackson Hemopo (Highlanders), 5 Jason Jenkins (Bulls/Toyota), 4 Sam Carter (Brumbies), 3 Hencus van Wyk (Sunwolves/Sanix), 2 Adriaan Strauss (Bulls), 1 Craig Millar (Sunwolves/Panasonic)
Substitutes: Ricky Riccitelli (Hurricanes), Wyatt Crockett (Crusaders), Ben Alexander (Brumbies), Ben Gunter (Panasonic), Willie Britz (Sunwolves/NTT), Augustine Pulu (Hino/Blues), Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias (Jaguares), Keisuke Moriya (Panasonic), Nili Latu (Hino), Corne Fourie (Lions/Panasonic)
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5 units (1 to 10 scale) Either side to win by 1-7 points including the draw, 1.55/1 Sunbet
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Anyway there is new competition in England starting this Friday and waiting for the first lines to be out – there will be a prize money in every match for the winning team and hopefully the competition will be as open as the previous LV Cup.
I ll post later one if I spot anything value
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This is a good summing up of The Scarlets season btw...
www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-...ets-reasons-15318831
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RB - All Blacks team vs Japan will be a B/C side. Bulk of the match-day 23 from this weekend will travel to UK on the Sunday morning to prep for England game.
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An AB B/C side still better than that World XV team. Taken some more of the Sunbet +11.5 as think the +7 is fair so still value.
Now quite Big on Japan!
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mackem wrote: Currie Cup Final preview
goodforthegame.co.za/Currie-Cup-2018/wes...betting-preview.html
5 units (1 to 10 scale) Either side to win by 1-7 points including the draw, 1.55/1 Sunbet
Quite like this either team bet especially in a final
Western Province team below. See Willemse moved to centre
15 Dillyn Leyds, 14 Sergeal Petersen, 13 Ruhan Nel, 12 Damian Willemse, 11 SP Marais, 10 Josh Stander, 9 Jano Vermaak, 8 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 7 Ernst van Rhyn, 6 Kobus van Dyk, 5 JD Schickerling, 4 Chris van Zyl (captain), 3 Wilco Louw, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Ali Vermaak
Substitutes: 16 Scarra Ntubeni, 17 Caylib Oosthuizen, 18 Michael Kumbirai, 19 Salmaan Moerat, 20 Jaco Coetzee, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Dan Kriel, 23 JJ Engelbrecht
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Thrasher6 wrote: The Scarlets are down to the bare bones with 19 players missing against the Southern Kings. The handicap is +10 to the Kings. Anyone feel this is worth a shout....I'm just not sure about the Kings at times... (sorry I have just noticed that many were on +19 earlier in the week..)
This is a good summing up of The Scarlets season btw...
www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-...ets-reasons-15318831
Teams if interested:
Southern Kings
15 Masixole Banda, 14 Yaw Penxe, 13 Harlon Klassen, 12 Berton Klassen, 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Martin du Toit, 9 Godlen Masimla, 8 Andisa Ntsila, 7 Ruaan Lerm, 6 Stephan de Wit, 5 JC Astle (captain), 4 Schalk Oelofse, 3 Luvuyo Pupuma, 2 Alandre van Rooyen 1 Schalk Ferreira
Substitutes: 16 Tango Balekile, 17 Justin Forwood, 18 Luphumlo Mguca, 19 Stephan Greeff, 20 Tienie Burger, 21 Rudi van Rooyen, 22 Tertius Kruger, 23 Meli Rokoua
Scarlets
15 Clayton Blommetjies, 14 Johnny McNicholl, 13 Paul Asquith, 12 Steff Hughes (captain), 11 Ioan Nicholas, 10 Dan Jones, 9 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne, 8 Uzair Cassiem, 7 Josh Macleod, , 6 Will Boyde, 5 David Bulbring, 4 Steve Cummins, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Marc Jones, 1 Phil Price
Substitutes: 16 Dafydd Hughes, 17 Dylan Evans, 18 Simon Gardiner, 19 Tom Price, 20 Josh Helps, 21 Kieran Hardy, 22 Morgan Williams, 23 Ed Kennedy
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And being a bit off form I jumped into WP -6.5 earlier in the week. Thinking it should be bigger than that. Only to find that now you can get WP -5.5.
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I want to first check that WP doesnt do this penalty kicking sh*t and carries on playing how they have all season before backing them. If WP starts going for penalties early and the sharks line moves up a bit going to take full cover on them (as have a season bet on WP to win the currie cup).
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Over 42.5 @ 1.83
I found the cut low so giving it a try - Brive has his best players back vs game lost last time + Montauban can score with Bosviel + excellent forecast
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La Rochelle +4.5
Grenoble +6.5
Racing -15.5
Newport+17.5
Ospreys +0.5
Cardiff +1.5
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If the ball sticks to the Cheetahs fingers and they keep handling errors to a minimum they should win this game comfortably.
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Have they announced their team for the Pro14 yet? If it were me I would go stronger on Tuesday ...
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RuggaBugga wrote: Cheetahs have a promo/relegation battle on Tuesday for the Currie Cup.
Have they announced their team for the Pro14 yet? If it were me I would go stronger on Tuesday ...
Cheetahs team v Cardiff:
www.fscheetahs.co.za/match-day
Seems full strength
TEAM ANNOUNCEMENT
POS NAME
1 OX NCHE
2 JACQUES DU TOIT
3 ARANOS COETZEE
4 JUSTIN BASSON
5 JP DU PREEZ
6 NIELL JORDAAN
7 JUNIOR POKOMELA
8 STEPHAN MALAN
9 TIAN MEYER
10 TIAN SCHOEMAN
11 RABZ MAXWANE
12 NICO LEE
13 BENHARD JANSE VAN RENSBURG
14 WILLIAM SMALL-SMITH
15 LOUIS FOUCHE
RESERVES
16 JOSEPH DWEBA
17 CHARLES MARAIS
18 GUNTHER JANSE VAN VUUREN
19 WALT STEENKAMP
20 DANIEL MAARTENS
21 ABONGILE NONKONTWANE
22 SHAUN VENTER
23 ALI MGIJIMA
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Munster:
Nine of the 11 Munster players called up to the Ireland squad earlier this week are included in the Munster matchday 23.
Glasgow:
In the starting XV, five of the sixteen players named in Scotland’s 2018 Autumn International squad return,
Link below lists all Pro14 teams for Saturday:
www.planetrugby.com/news/pro14-preview-saturday-20/
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Replacements: Liam Belcher, Rhys Gill, Keiron Assiratti, Samu Manoa, Nick Williams, Lewis Jones, Dan Fish, Willis Halaholo
Largely as expected with their internationals missing.
Seb Davies makes his return from injury at No 8. Not sure why both Blues and Wales persist with him in the back row, much better 2nd rower for me.
Some power and quality on the bench with Manoa, Williams and Halaholo.
Have had a modest bet Cheetahs -2, not large as wary of the Blues - they've performed well this year when starting as dogs.
Took some Munster -7 v Glasgow yesterday (most of Irish internationals starting for them) and after seeing Leinster line up (similarly strong) have jumped on -8 vs Treviso with Sporting Bet.
Cap blown out to -15 other books.
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Worldies led 24-7 at HT and scored right after the break. Then the comeback started as the fix was in
Cannot have the Japs embarrassed in a test match leading up to the RWC. GOLDEN!!!!!!!!
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RuggaBugga wrote: Japan 28 World XV 31
Worldies led 24-7 at HT and scored right after the break. Then the comeback started as the fix was in
Cannot have the Japs embarrassed in a test match leading up to the RWC. GOLDEN!!!!!!!!
Was following on Twitter and at 31-7 I was about to get prepared for eating humble pie after saying bookies got this miles wrong. Thank god the Japs roared back and great start to weekend.
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Gone NZ -14.5 main bet.
Then McKenzie 1st try 16/1
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