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1 month 11 hours ago #1 by Brent Graham
This past weekend was a disappointing one for me with my biggest bet New Zealand over 25.5 missing. I clawed some back with Scotland over 40.5 but the big disappointment was taking a somewhat alcohol induced punt on NZL/ENG HT/FT at 19/2 only to see England fluff their lines.

Anyways we have some great rugby this weekend and here are some early lines at WSB

Ireland -5.5 v New Zealand
England -10.5 v Australia
France -32.5 v Japan
Wales -5.5 v Fiji
Scotland +7.5 v South Africa

I have not seen a line for Italy Argentina

Early thoughts are that Australia can push England, Fiji can beat Wales but was hoping for a bigger price

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4 weeks 1 day ago #2 by Jameson
Hang on, Scotland put Fiji to the sword scoring over 50 pts against them and Wales are 'only' -5.5 ??

I just don't buy that Wales are that inferior to Scotland and I'll be filling my boots .... :-o

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4 weeks 1 day ago #3 by southpaw

Jameson wrote: Hang on, Scotland put Fiji to the sword scoring over 50 pts against them and Wales are 'only' -5.5 ??

I just don't buy that Wales are that inferior to Scotland and I'll be filling my boots .... :-o


Any Fiji player below that plays in France or UK was not available vs Scots, but will be vs Wales. And some big names listed -

IJIAN AUTUMN NATIONS SERIES SQUAD
Full Back: Isaiah Armstrong-Ravula (Drua), Sireli Maqala (Bayonne), Ilaisa Droasese (Drua)
Wings: Vuate Karawalevu (Waratahs), Ponipate Loganimasi (Drua), Jiuta Wainiqolo (Toulon), Josua Tuisova (Racing 92)
Centres: Waisale Nayacalevu (co-captain, Sale Sharks), Semi Radradra (Lyon), Apisalome Vota (Drua), Inia Tabuavou (Racing 92), Vilimone Botitu (Castres Olympique), Waqa Nalaga (Drua)*
Half Backs: Kemu Valetini (Drua)*, Caleb Muntz (Drua), Frank Lomani (Drua), Simiome Kuruvoli (Drua), Peni Matawalu (Drua)
Props: Eroni Mawi (Saracens), Haereiti Hetet (Drua), Livai Natave (Drua), Luke Tagi (Bayonne), Samuela Tawake (Drua), Jone Koroiduadua (Drua), Meli Tuni (Drua)
Hookers: Tevita Ikanivere (co-captain, Drua), Sam Matavesi (Lyon), Mesulame Dolokoto (Drua), Penaia Cakobau (North Harbour)*
Locks: Isoa Nasilasila (Drua), Mesake Vocevoce (Drua), Temo Mayanavanua (Northampton Saints), Leone Rotuisolia (Drua)
Back Row: Kitione Salawa (Drua), Vilive Miramira (Drua), Elia Canakaivata (Drua), Albert Tuisue (Gloucester), Meli Derenalagi (Drua), Saimoni Uluinakauvadra (Northland)*
* Uncapped

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4 weeks 1 day ago #4 by Pablo

Jameson wrote: Hang on, Scotland put Fiji to the sword scoring over 50 pts against them and Wales are 'only' -5.5 ??

I just don't buy that Wales are that inferior to Scotland and I'll be filling my boots .... :-o


Fiji french-based players will be available this week, much stronger lineup expected.

But if Muntz plays at 10 value will be on Wales, I'd put Armstrong-Ravula there closed eyes.

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4 weeks 1 day ago #5 by Jameson
Ahhh right, of course. But still!

I'm also a little surprised that Ireland are -6.5 against the Darkness? They wont be as bad as they were against England - as long as they sort their line out .....

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4 weeks 1 day ago #6 by Brad Breath
Agree with BG that Aus can push England

Found Aus +12.5 @ 1.9 with Quinnbet, so have taken that

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4 weeks 1 day ago #7 by Experienced Novice
The more I look at the matchup, the more I like Argentina to cover the - handicap against Benetton.

They've more than held their own against the other three rugby championship teams, and i rank them a tier or more higher as a rugby nation than Italy.
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4 weeks 23 hours ago #8 by Jameson
RE: Wales v Fiji

Gatland would be a complete fool if he picked anything other than the strongest team possible for Sunday. This is a must win game for Wales and should they lose he's toast. So I'm on the -, and the straight win.

Have I lost my marbles? A distinct possibility as I've just put a biggish bet on Kamala to be the next president @7/5 .......

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4 weeks 13 hours ago - 4 weeks 11 hours ago #9 by Dfurlong1986
Anyone seen any points lines for Ireland Nz on Friday. I’m thinking unders here would love to see a high points total but expecting about 45.5
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4 weeks 12 hours ago #10 by Gareth75
Gatland suerly will pick his best team because as you said its a bit of a must win game as Wales & him are on that loosing streak of 8 losses in a row barring the Reds 1pt win.
But even if he looses these 3 autumn games i cant see the WRU sacking him, because they'l have to pay off his big contract which is up to the 2027 world cup , plus some or most of his staff whilst also having to fork out on a new head coach. WRU have no money to waste.
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4 weeks 44 minutes ago #11 by Kirky

Jameson wrote: RE: Wales v Fiji

Have I lost my marbles? A distinct possibility as I've just put a biggish bet on Kamala to be the next president @7/5 .......


Thank God that you lost. The Golden age of America starts now.
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4 weeks 30 minutes ago #12 by Jameson

Kirky wrote:

Jameson wrote: RE: Wales v Fiji

Have I lost my marbles? A distinct possibility as I've just put a biggish bet on Kamala to be the next president @7/5 .......


Thank God that you lost. The Golden age of America starts now.


That God of yours saved Trump for a reason - he just said .....

The planet is screwed dude.
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3 weeks 6 days ago #13 by Brent Graham
Lads there is a politics thread for any further banter on elections

Looking at the betting very few changes, SA now -9.5 from -7.5 the biggest move

Caps which were not out when the thread started

Italy +3.5 v Wales
France -32.5 v Japan

I am starting to lean Ireland -5.5, a couple of key All Black injuries and a short turnaround for the AB's - Furlong out for Irish and while that is a concern depth wise I think BB and Taylor the bigger losses

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3 weeks 5 days ago #14 by sitho1983
My BOTW
NZ win
Arg - 3.5
Fiji win

this multi will get u 18.46

Nothing goes according to script
If NZ doesn't win with all the Practice they got recently then they got serious issues.
Fiji will break the Welsh and i have to go with Oracles Los Pumas who definitely will come hungry on Sat.
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3 weeks 5 days ago #15 by southpaw
NZ over 10.5 1st half pts @ 11/10

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3 weeks 5 days ago #16 by Brent Graham
You asked for it

Pablo joins us (Oracle and I) on The Handicap tonight live at 21h00 to talk International Rugby - Click here to set a reminder and watch on You Tube

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3 weeks 5 days ago #17 by Pablo
Thank you for having me Brent.

My english level is a little bit rusty but I enjoyed the show.
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3 weeks 5 days ago #18 by Stoossy
you were very good
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3 weeks 5 days ago #19 by Quill
The last three meetings between Ireland and All Blacks have been decided by no more than 12 points.

Ireland have won three of their last four home meetings with the All Blacks and all three were by less than 12 points.

Bet: Ireland 1-12 @2.50
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3 weeks 5 days ago #20 by Quill

Quill wrote: The last three meetings between Ireland and All Blacks have been decided by no more than 12 points.

Ireland have won three of their last four home meetings with the All Blacks and all three were by less than 12 points.

Bet: Ireland 1-12 @2.50

While at some bookies the handicap is still at -6.5, I found -5.5 at Unibet at odds 1.88.

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3 weeks 5 days ago #21 by Brent Graham
Top stuff Pablo it was great having you on the show

I will be posting plays on the Argentina, France and Wales games in The Handicap Blog

Argentina -3.5 the 1st play

France v Japan has my attention and I am sure Mondo will approve France -16.5 at 9/10 in the half time handicap

Also France over 7.5 tries at 12/10 - a better bet than over 51.5 if like me you assume France will be hunting tries and not taking penalties.

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3 weeks 5 days ago #22 by southpaw
Definitely agree that tries overs appeals more than points for France, will join you once more bookies pricing up.

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3 weeks 5 days ago #23 by southpaw
And great to put a face and voice to the brilliant insight from pablo. Well done on your show debut sir.
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3 weeks 5 days ago #24 by southpaw
ENG AUS over 50,5 @ 5/6

Expecting an open game at Twickers.

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3 weeks 5 days ago #25 by ProveMeWrong
Yes man, Pablo. Great to see you out there. Fantastic debut!

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3 weeks 5 days ago #26 by Mondo86
Pablo coming in HOT - Well done on popping that GFTG cherry!

This weekend has a few tempting spots -

1. GREAT spot on France -16.5 HT Brent - I was eyeing that out all week and with the pack France have picked, rolling maul tries should be smoother than jam on a scone

2. Mauvaka ATS @ 1.72 is a mistake and far too low. He is a threat in open play as an added bonus, but France will score at least 3 rolling maul tries in the first half. Mauvaka 2+ is worth a nibble @ 4.5

3. NZ over 9.5 HT looks the goods.

4. Arg +3.5 & Aus +15.5 @ 2.28

5. France over 3.5 Tries first half @2 - Gold

Lets get the brooms out and SWEEP boys!

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3 weeks 5 days ago #27 by Brent Graham
Ireland v New Zealand Preview

I cannot wait for this one!

After a good nights sleep I am on the Irish -6.5 at 19/20

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3 weeks 5 days ago #28 by Naidoo
Nice show yesterday Brent, Oracle and Pablo. Feels like finding a nice GFTG acca this weekend is not too difficult (on paper lol), so looking forward to that Newsletter.

Taking a double for Saturday:
Argentina DNB into France over 7.5 tries @ 26/10

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3 weeks 5 days ago - 3 weeks 4 days ago #29 by Jameson
Bet against Wales at your peril! You lot (except Pablo) are going to have egg on your faces! You know what Fiji are going to do, they'll be carrying and passing the ball one handed, making mistakes and giving away loads of penalties. Sure they'll score a couple of fantastic tries but Wales will contain them playing proper test rugby. Wales by 10+ :-)
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3 weeks 4 days ago #30 by Pablo
Thanks, mates. It was very nice to be in The Show.

France o24.5 HT @1.83 2u

As was commented yesterday in the show, I see France far stronger than Japan. I prefer this line because I expect them to start fast and eventually put the foot of the gas in the second half. France don't have any problem to kick penalties and keep the scoreboard ticking. Good weather.

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3 weeks 4 days ago #31 by Mondo86
Over 3.5 tries first half @2 offers a bit better value imho - They definitely wont be taking 3's

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3 weeks 4 days ago #32 by Pablo
Provence -20.5 @1.90 2u

There isn't team points lines here (around 36.5 is for 2.5u the overs) so I take the hándicap. Provence going strong, also the bench, while Aurillac makes plenty of rotation.
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3 weeks 4 days ago #33 by mikebrown
hello agree with you Pablo for aix -20

im going to aix race 35pts

over 46.5 pts oyonnax grenoble 1.83

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3 weeks 4 days ago - 3 weeks 4 days ago #34 by Laraxwell
@ Pablo - well done on the show last night.
Your English is a helluva lot better than my Spanish!

Fiji have their big players back but I like Wales +5.5pts.
Scarlets and Cardiff have shown some decent form in the URC and sit in 6th and 8th place.
I really rate the massive 2nd row pairing of Beard and Rowlands. I expect Dewi Lake @ hooker to tour with the Lions.
Anyhow- won't be popular here but Wales +5.5pts for me
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3 weeks 4 days ago #35 by Jameson
Wales + PLUS 5.5? I see -7.5 now.

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3 weeks 4 days ago #36 by Laraxwell
My Apologies - -5.5pts - Boylesports a couple of hours ago.

There's been some rain in Dublin

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3 weeks 4 days ago #37 by Jameson
There is some light rain showing on the radar - oh no, I hate an unders ..... :-)

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3 weeks 4 days ago #38 by southpaw

southpaw wrote: NZ over 10.5 1st half pts @ 11/10


couldn't find the 9.5 so topped up a bit on over 10.5 @ evens.

added Both teams get a yellow @ 5/2

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3 weeks 4 days ago #39 by Brent Graham
I think the Wales v Fiji game is one of those where we are either looking at an upset or a comfortable Wales win, I have gone with the former but not with any conviction

Must say unders in Dublin is seriously tempting with the light rain around but don't want to get too exposed in the 1st game - come on you Irish beauties

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3 weeks 4 days ago #40 by Jameson
Gone NZ +5.5. Slippery conditions and it seems NZ front row may have the edge ....

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3 weeks 4 days ago #41 by Pablo
I took u49 ha in Dublin @1.84 for just 1u

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3 weeks 4 days ago #42 by Pablo

Pablo wrote: Provence -20.5 @1.90 2u

There isn't team points lines here (around 36.5 is for 2.5u the overs) so I take the hándicap. Provence going strong, also the bench, while Aurillac makes plenty of rotation.



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3 weeks 4 days ago #43 by Jameson
Also went over 36.5 in live play - could do with a couple of early scores to calm nerves!

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3 weeks 4 days ago #44 by Chiefie

Jameson wrote: Also went over 36.5 in live play - could do with a couple of early scores to calm nerves!


Honestly, I hate Nic Berry. The man is clueless. Slow, inept, indecisive, doesn’t know the basic rules about line outs, how is this guy in a job?

Rassie needs to do another 1hr long video on this performance.

Also Ireland don’t look great, but definitely world number 1 right fellas? Lollll

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3 weeks 4 days ago #45 by Connachtrugby0

Chiefie wrote:

Jameson wrote: Also went over 36.5 in live play - could do with a couple of early scores to calm nerves!


Honestly, I hate Nic Berry. The man is clueless. Slow, inept, indecisive, doesn’t know the basic rules about line outs, how is this guy in a job?

Rassie needs to do another 1hr long video on this performance.

Also Ireland don’t look great, but definitely world number 1 right fellas? Lollll


Did you not give up punting on rugby Chiefie? Thought you said that on this forum

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3 weeks 4 days ago #46 by sitho1983
What I noticed with the Irish is they rusty.
I expect the same for the Welsh
Fiji had alot more game time of late compared to the Welsh, Fiji should do the Job against Wales

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3 weeks 4 days ago #47 by Dfurlong1986
Not nice to watch but cleaned up on the unders. Onto tomorrow :P

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3 weeks 4 days ago #48 by Jameson

Jameson wrote: Also went over 36.5 in live play - could do with a couple of early scores to calm nerves!


Honestly, I'm sick and tired of being on the receiving end of tight ones. Missed conversion should have allowed another score in 10 mins and also the penalty hitting the post. Hopeless ...

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3 weeks 4 days ago #49 by Jameson

sitho1983 wrote: What I noticed with the Irish is they rusty.
I expect the same for the Welsh
Fiji had alot more game time of late compared to the Welsh, Fiji should do the Job against Wales


Nope - that's a decent Welsh side and should be more than good enough.

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3 weeks 4 days ago #50 by Chiefie

Connachtrugby0 wrote:

Chiefie wrote:

Jameson wrote: Also went over 36.5 in live play - could do with a couple of early scores to calm nerves!


Honestly, I hate Nic Berry. The man is clueless. Slow, inept, indecisive, doesn’t know the basic rules about line outs, how is this guy in a job?

Rassie needs to do another 1hr long video on this performance.

Also Ireland don’t look great, but definitely world number 1 right fellas? Lollll


Did you not give up punting on rugby Chiefie? Thought you said that on this forum


I’m back. But in moderation. Did you miss me? Xx

Quite right, Irish proper rusty, but Berry didn’t help. He was the stand out eye sore in the game for me.

Not sure what the Irish guys on the forum think of James Lowe celebrating a 50:22 on 72min, 10 points down - felt a little odd?

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