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All T20 World Cup picks including outrights are most welcome here
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As for the pitches being made on a farm and flown into NY, makes early match betting very tricky. I think proper betting will take place when the Super Eights begin and thankfully all games from then on are in the West Indies.
Also I don't mean any disrespect here with my comment but seriously how do you grow the game in the US and Canada when majority of the players of both teams are like a Rest of the World squad, instead of players born in the States and Canada?
Anyway for outright betting, I think I will wait inplay for that as for now there's not much value on any team. Hopefully can get a good price on a team who may look unlikely to make the Super Eight with a shock early loss (something like how Aus price inflated in the CWC last year).
If SA do go far, like the final hopefully, then Klaasen Player of the Tournament at around 25s is overpriced for me. Klaasen top batsmen at 35s is also good value, but I am not sure he will spend enough time in the middle to get close to that, so I prefer Player of the Tournament.
I also like SA to score the most sixes in the tournament at 7s. The side is stacked with big hitters and as we saw in the CWC, our batsmen can deliver on that front.
Goodluck with everyone betting this tournament and hopefully its a profitable one for all.
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Saturday 1st June United States (9/20) vs Canada (1.85/1), Group A, Dallas
Sunday 2nd June West Indies (0.02/1) vs Papua New Guinea (12/1), Group C, Guyana
Sunday 2nd June Namibia (5/10) vs Oman (1.62/1), Group B, Barbados
Monday 3rd June, Sri Lanka (1.65/1) vs South Africa (0.67/1), Group D, New York
Monday 3rd June, Afghanistan (0.05/1) vs Uganda (8.25/1), Group C, Guyana
Tuesday 4th June, England (0.07/1) vs Scotland (7.5/1), Group B, Barbados
Tuesday 4th June, Netherlands (11/20) vs Nepal (14/10), Group D, Dallas
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India 29/10
Australia 41/10
England 41/10
South Africa 77/10
West Indies 84/10
New Zealand 10.5/1
Pakistan 12/1
Sri Lanka 39/1
Afghanistan 40/1
Bangladesh 83/1
250/1 and upwards the rest.
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But at those prices will be taking my standard Punts on NZ and SA.
NZ - They always seem to perform at WC, and with expected slow and low pitches in WI, surely worth a pop at that price.
SA - I hate saying this, but with our middle order we have to stand a chance, if our bowlers can keep the runs below 240 an innings.
The one team I won't back is India, for some reason Pandaya seems to have brought a terribly toxic aura with him, and like he did with Mumbai, can see that carrying over to this team.
Anyway looking forward to it starting.
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As we all know I lean towards bets on bowlers - just cannot trust batsmen.
OUTRIGHTS
Top Team Bowler
Australia
Starc @ 3/1
Pakistan
Rauf @ 7/2
South Africa
Coetzee @ 4/1
Most Sixes
Team
England @ 17/4
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Klaasen @ 16/1
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It's a “drop in” pitch which makes it tough to know how it's going to play and whether it will suit batting or bowling. The Proteas are short price favourites at around 0.42/1 and Sportingbet have some price boosts which might be of interest.
Markram to make a 50, was 27/10 now 9/2
Shamsi to take 2+ wickets was 1.35/1 now 2/1
Miller and Stubbs to hit 5 or more sixes combined was 5/2 now 7/2
Sri Lanka have a new coach and the Proteas have a reputation for starting these T20 tournaments slowly so given the unknowns surrounding the surface a small interest will do for now and I will nibble at the Shamsi price boost.
Shamsi to take 2+ wickets was 1.35/1 now 2/1 at Sportingbet
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South Africa's middle order contains some of the biggest hitters in world cricket. I fancy the likes of Markam, Klaasen and Stubbs to take on the bowlers, on a relatively small ground where a slow outfield might make the rotation of strike more difficult.
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dholliday wrote: Taking some South over 8.5 sixes at 2.10
South Africa's middle order contains some of the biggest hitters in world cricket. I fancy the likes of Markam, Klaasen and Stubbs to take on the bowlers, on a relatively small ground where a slow outfield might make the rotation of strike more difficult.
thinking aligned to you here. I've taken SA over 7.5 sixes @ 8/10.
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dholliday wrote: Taking some South over 8.5 sixes at 2.10
South Africa's middle order contains some of the biggest hitters in world cricket. I fancy the likes of Markam, Klaasen and Stubbs to take on the bowlers, on a relatively small ground where a slow outfield might make the rotation of strike more difficult.
feel like we badly needed SA to bat first here as SL batters are struggling so score may not be big.
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Scott Edwards Performance - Over 27.5 @ 9/10
Same as I have seen others on here, agree with them, for a wicket Keeper, that is low.
But all small as think this world cup is going to remain volatile till all games in WI.
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Value bet: Ireland to hit more sixes than India at 10/1
I know this is on the same pitch as the SA vs Sri Lanka game, but Ireland is a six hitting team.
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India v Ireland
Over 1.5 match wickets Yadav @ 12/10
Hard to know what to make of the drop in pitches. India ran up a 180 here last week in a practice match.
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hanrick wrote: Ireland over 2.5 sixes at 8/10
Value bet: Ireland to hit more sixes than India at 10/1
I know this is on the same pitch as the SA vs Sri Lanka game, but Ireland is a six hitting team.
Thanks for sharing this Hanrick, nice bet
This NY wicket is very tough to read, it's borderline on the dangerous side based on the bounce at times. Based on the two poor low scoring games played here so far, makes you wonder just how strong India batting is if they posted 180 in the warm up game on the same surface.
I also see that some tickets for the match between India and Pakistan in NY on Sunday is selling for around $10k, imagine people paying that to watch probably a 2 hour game based on these pitch conditions.... If this was a regular T20 series, no doubt the ICC would pull the series based on unsafe conditions, but it's a World Cup so no chance that happens.
As KT mentioned, hopefully betting gets easier once the tournament shits to WI for the Super Eights.
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The Vann wrote: Tournament is a damp squib in my opinion with at least a third of the matches being meaningless. Also around a third in the wrong time zone for me to watch. Hopefully it comes right in the super eight section.Added to this the fact that my Coetzee SA bowler bet looks dead in the water. Hard to believe Kg, Jansen and Nortje got the nod ahead of him. He was streets better then any of them in the recent IPL.
India v Ireland
Over 1.5 match wickets Yadav @ 12/10
Hard to know what to make of the drop in pitches. India ran up a 180 here last week in a practice match.
Not looking likely Vann, based on the Super Eight and semi schedule, games are alternating between 02:30am and 16:30pm..these crazy time zones, just doesn't make the tournament feel like a World Cup, no back to back games, poor wickets... Just a shambles really.
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USA vs Pakistan (Thursday 17:30 SA Time)
Dallas seems to be a proper cricket wicket, so I am happy to have a bet on this game. USA were very impressive in chasing that big total against Canada, especially when they where in early trouble and could of folded easily.
Pakistan have a strong bowling attack, but can leak runs as well. I expected them to be around 1/4 to win, not 0.08/1. I think USA could give them a game, and it will be closer than the odds suggest.
Monank Patel is the US captain and WK, he has some good scores in his previous games and had a poor game against Canada. He will open the batting and if he has any braincells he should try and see of Shaheen Afridi opening two overs and attack the other Pakistani bowlers in the Powerplay. Also like everyone else and their PP bets, I don't have to explain as a WK why this line is too low for him.
Monank Patel over 22.5 Player Performance @ 17/20 (BoyleSports)
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Naidoo wrote:
As KT mentioned, hopefully betting gets easier once the tournament shits to WI for the Super Eights.
Probably right here - shits now and shits later
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Pakistan do hit a lot of sixes themselves, so the 6/1 probably right, but just can't help myself. Pakistan coming into the WC low on confidence and they go missing against the minnows sometimes.
USA played against Canada in Dallas and hit 13 sixes, while Canada hit 11 sixes so I like the USA over 4.5 sixes.
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shaft wrote: I took Fakhar Zaman over 0.5 sixes @ 8/10
Nice when he comes out and hits his 1st ball for 6. Nicely done!
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New York Player Performance Double
Friday Canada vs Ireland
Saturday Netherlands vs SA
I told myself that I won't touch the NY games, but these lines are just too low for WKs that bat in the middle order... so taking a double over the two days instead of two singles, as cant be bothered with staking two single size bets on associate nations especially while playing in NY.
Shreyas Movva (Canada) over 17.5 PP into Scott Edwards (Netherlands) over 16.5 PP @ 26/10
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I'd also rather go with a value play here.
No 50 to be scored in the match @ 3/1
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shaft wrote: Canada vs Ireland
I'd also rather go with a value play here.
No 50 to be scored in the match @ 3/1
Got to love it when these value plays scrape in, nicely done mate
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Hope Netherlands bat first then this has a shot
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Netherlands @ 32/10
Over 1.5 match wickets van Beek @ 7/2 (Sportingbet boost)
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They still have Top SA Bowler market open - I think KG @ 33/10 is a good price
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Same place Scotland ran up 90 for 0 in 10 overs against England. Is a different pitch but reputed to be the best they have.
Not sure Maxwell has made a 20 yet this year. His form about on a par with my current rugby union punting form
Maxwell under 20.5 runs @ 17/20
Starc over 1.5 match wickets @ 7/4
Based on the pitch write-ups
Australia 0-6 overs over 53.5 @ 17/20
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Decided to do the write up and post my bet now as I don't understand this line. Just seen the SA score and 12/4 after 5.2 overs, makes me even more confident in this bet.
Batting is not getting any easier in New York. Tomorrow is the big rivalry game in New York and the weather is not looking good as well. I don't rate Pakistan batting, as they are just a two man batting side, and if Rizwan and Babar fail, the team falls cheaply. India are more dangerous with the bat, but in a game like this, I expect them too be conservative on this pitch, especially with Afridi moving the ball with the overhead conditions.
Both teams have strong bowling attacks and I think another low scoring game is expected. For that reason, I don't see anyone clearing the 63.5 top batsmen total runs line. I think it should of been a 53.5 line, so love the additional 10 runs. So far this T20 World Cup, no batsmen has scored more than 59 runs in New York.
Top Batsmen Total Runs - Under 63.5 @ 17/20 (Boyle)
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The Vann wrote: Netherlands v SA
Hope Netherlands bat first then this has a shot
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Netherlands @ 32/10
Over 1.5 match wickets van Beek @ 7/2 (Sportingbet boost)
For those who can bet a few pence at WSB
They still have Top SA Bowler market open - I think KG @ 33/10 is a good price
Nicely done Vann
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India 2.45/1
Australia 33/10
West Indies 13/2
South Africa 7/1
England 76/10
Afghanistan 17.5/1
New Zealand 22/1
Pakistan 23/1
Bangladesh 73/1
USA 105/1
Sri Lanka 110/1
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In New York on pitch 2 or 4. Both good for seamers and very little by way of runs.
Over 1.5 match wickets - Yes
A Singh @ 15/10
Rauf @ 7/4
Match 4's under 23.5 @ 8/10
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SA vs Bangladesh
Mustafizur 2+ wickets @ 2/1. (Sportingbet boost).
Then a bolter: Mahmudullah top Bangladesh bat @ a very juicy 11/1. This guy can play. Hopefully our seamers rip through the top order
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Going to run with that 2/1 on Rahman as well. Das looked good with that 36 in Dallas and also collected a catch and a stumping. Hossain can turn a cricket ball anywhere so worth a sniff.
PP Das over 23.5 @ 17/20
A few beers on the sixes market. This guy has more sixes in one innings then all the Saffa's in two except for Miller which is tied.
Most sixes Hridoy @ 10/1
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Innings break SA 113/6
SA to win @ 15/10
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In the Pakistan vs Canada game today I'm going against what has been good to me, but the quotes are just too low imo. I've also read that a fresh pitch will be used for this game, although I'm not sure what to expect from a "fresh pitch" as the pitches were tough to bat on from the start of the tournament.
Main bet over 6.5 total sixes at 9/10 and also taken Pakistan over 4.5 sixes at 12/10. Would obviously prefer Pakistan to bat first.
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I went under 235.5 runs even odds.
Hoping Canada will bat first.
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Pakistan v Canada
SA have yet to reach 33 in six overs here and they have played all their matches in NY. Scotland did get 37 in their first six against Ireland but this attack is several classes better. I'm hoping Hanrick is right on the sixes market but I'm going to go with Kirton and Movva to get my bet over the line..
Overs 0-6 Scotland under 32.5 @ 17/20
Scotland over 2.5 match sixes @ 21/20
Afternoons beers also on the sixes market
Most sixes
Kirton @ 16/1
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Pakistan vs Canada
Pakistan bowlers should trouble the Canadian batters, but I find the PP line on Aaron Johnson disrespectful. The opening batsman is in good form, and is very attacking against the left arm pacers. Sure he could get out cheaply here, but the ball also follows him in the field, so a catch or two can bring this bet home. Taking it more because of the low line, so lower stakes than usual on my PP bets.
Aaron Johnson over 13.5 Player Performance @ 17/20 (Boyle)
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The Vann wrote: All the drop-in pitches come from the same place in Florida so we should get more of the same. Totally agree with Hanrick on the bat/ball contest. Just so much better then the over 250 scores in the IPL.
Pakistan v Canada
SA have yet to reach 33 in six overs here and they have played all their matches in NY. Scotland did get 37 in their first six against Ireland but this attack is several classes better. I'm hoping Hanrick is right on the sixes market but I'm going to go with Kirton and Movva to get my bet over the line..
Overs 0-6 Scotland under 32.5 @ 17/20
Scotland over 2.5 match sixes @ 21/20
Afternoons beers also on the sixes market
Most sixes
Kirton @ 16/1
Vann the Euros start on Friday night, so no idea why you have Scotland on the mind....
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I've gone Kirton over 9.5 runs @ 17/20. The line is too low to leave alone..........
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Naidoo wrote:
The Vann wrote: All the drop-in pitches come from the same place in Florida so we should get more of the same. Totally agree with Hanrick on the bat/ball contest. Just so much better then the over 250 scores in the IPL.
Pakistan v Canada
SA have yet to reach 33 in six overs here and they have played all their matches in NY. Scotland did get 37 in their first six against Ireland but this attack is several classes better. I'm hoping Hanrick is right on the sixes market but I'm going to go with Kirton and Movva to get my bet over the line..
Overs 0-6 Scotland under 32.5 @ 17/20
Scotland over 2.5 match sixes @ 21/20
Afternoons beers also on the sixes market
Most sixes
Kirton @ 16/1
Vann the Euros start on Friday night, so no idea why you have Scotland on the mind....
Faaaacckk. Prepared my spread sheet earlier today for the Euro's and the two teams I keep wondering what to make of are Austria and.... Scotland
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Big game overnight for English fans and I am punting a few beers on Scotland to beat Australia @ 65/10.
Win or lose, Australia will be in a group with India, Afghanistan in the Super Eights.
If you have an opportunity to knock England out, you take that with both hands. T20 Cricket is not so much about perform and England can pitch up any day and smash teams. Aussie's may just throw this game to get rid of their rivals.
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Prices correct as of 07:00 on 16th June
India 1.91/1
Australia 32/10
West Indies 64/10
South Africa 59/10
England 58/10
Afghanistan 19.5/1
Bangladesh 73/1
USA 115/1
Netherlands 1050/1
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USA v South Africa, Aaron Jones to hit 2 or more sixes was 3/1 now 9/2 with Sportingbet
England v West Indies, Top Batsman Total Runs over 66.5 at 17/20 with BoyleSports
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Ok lads I have a long term play
Top SA Batsman Markram at 12/1 at WSB (I can't find it anywhere else)
Markram has been in woeful form with 31 runs in 4 knocks
The rest of his team haven't been that much better though (odds in brackets)
Miller 101 runs (16/10)
Stubbs 73 runs (5/1)
Klaasen 72 runs (4/1)
Hendricks 50 runs (9/2)
De Kock 48 runs (4/1)
Miller doesn't get that much time at the crease and with both openers less than 20 runs ahead of him I reckon Markram is a value play at 12/1 - come on son find some form
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This wicket has been good for scoring (allowing for rain interuption and weak opponents). I watched Oman Scotland highlights and boundaries looked short especially square of wicket.
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Afghanistan v India, Total player performance Rahmanullah Gurbaz, over 28.5 at 17/20 with BoyleSports
Australia v Bangladesh, Total player performance Marcus Stoinis, over 36.5 at 17/20 with BoyleSports
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southpaw wrote: SA over 6.5 sixes @ 11/10
This wicket has been good for scoring (allowing for rain interuption and weak opponents). I watched Oman Scotland highlights and boundaries looked short especially square of wicket.
Great call South - banked nice and early
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Taking a treble for the Euros/Copa/T20 for Thursday.
England or draw/Argentina win/Mustafizur Rahman over 19.5 PP @ 12/10 (Boyle)
My preferred bet would of been Mustafizur PP line as a single, but Boyle and Betway only has his odds at 1.47.
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Phil Salt to make a 50 was 2/1 now 3/1 with Sportingbet
Rabada total wickets, over 1.5 at 13/10 with Sportingbet
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