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Draw was made for the second major of the season last night. Interestingly Nadal/Djokovic/Federer all drawn in the top half ie only one can make the final. Going through each quarter of the draw I think likely quarter finals will be
Djokovic v Berrettini and Nadal v Rublev in the top half
Zverev v Thiem or Ruud and Tsitsipas v Opelka in the bottom half.
I have Berrettini and Zverev - posted on boards a few weeks ago - And am adding from the other two quarters
Tsitsipas @ 9/2
Rublev @ 33/1 ( Probably a complete waste but he did beat Nadal on clay in Monte Carlo in April )
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2 years 9 months ago #2 by The Vann
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Kicking off with a long odds dog on the early matches.
Fognini is 2 from 7 on clay this season and last week played exhibition matches on the same surface against Medvedev/Fritz/Moutet and lost all three (not exactly clay court specialists) - making him 2 from 10. Barrere is French and won two qualifiers to make it into the Lyon main draw where he lost to Gasquet in three sets.
Fognini v Barrere
Barrere to win @ 63/20
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2 years 9 months ago - 2 years 9 months ago #3 by The Vann
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Days double with two lower ranked players but with better form.
Gerasimov v Couacaud
Gerasimov has lost his last five on clay and pulled out injured a week or so ago. Couacaud has better form. Players have not met before.
Pella v Galan
Have played once before three years ago - Pella won in five sets. Pella's form this year is won two and lost eight - even losing to Fognini above. Galan won three qualifiers in Munich recently and finished runner up in a Challenger warm up event.

Couacaud + Galan @ 13/10
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2 years 9 months ago #4 by The Vann
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Dimitrov not carrying great form and I expect Giron to push him in a set or three.
Dimitrov v Giron
Match Games over 34.5 @ 9/10
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2 years 9 months ago #5 by Quill
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The Vann wrote: Dimitrov not carrying great form and I expect Giron to push him in a set or three.
Dimitrov v Giron
Match Games over 34.5 @ 9/10

I was away and didn't have time to look into this.

I like this bet and putting some money on it too.

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2 years 9 months ago #6 by Quill
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Fokina vs Kukushkin

Fokina is a good clay courter and he's had some good results in the tournaments coming into the French Open: a semifinal appearance in Estoril, quarterfinal in Monte Carlo (retired), and round of 16 in Rome Masters.

Kukushkin has had a season to forget so far, losing all his five matches on clay without winning a single set. Moreover, his opponents were of a much lower calibre than Fokina. I think this will be a short match.

Bet: Fokina under 18.5 games @2.26, sportsbet.com.au (bet365 has it @1.83)
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2 years 9 months ago #7 by Quill
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Quill wrote:

The Vann wrote: Dimitrov not carrying great form and I expect Giron to push him in a set or three.
Dimitrov v Giron
Match Games over 34.5 @ 9/10

I was away and didn't have time to look into this.

I like this bet and putting some money on it too.


Wow, Giron was 1-5 down in the third set, then saved 3 match points and went on to break Dimitrov 3 times to win the set! :cheer:
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2 years 9 months ago #8 by The Vann
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Quill wrote:

Quill wrote:

The Vann wrote: Dimitrov not carrying great form and I expect Giron to push him in a set or three.
Dimitrov v Giron
Match Games over 34.5 @ 9/10

I was away and didn't have time to look into this.

I like this bet and putting some money on it too.


Wow, Giron was 1-5 down in the third set, then saved 3 match points and went on to break Dimitrov 3 times to win the set! :cheer:


Never in doubt. Virtual banker :woohoo:

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2 years 9 months ago #9 by The Vann
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Mager v Millman. Would fancy the Aussie on any surface except clay. Mager must have a chance here and I see my book has him at 7/10 favorite. Not too sure about that so rather taking the longer game odds as I see more then three sets here.
Mager v Millman
Mager over 19.5 games @ 21/20

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2 years 9 months ago #10 by Quill
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An evening multiple:

Norrie + Paul + Delbonis + Alcaraz @2.19

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2 years 9 months ago #11 by Quill
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Bublik vs Medvedev

None of these players like clay and especially Medvedev, who stated at the beginning of the European clay season that he hates playing on clay, the ball bounces in weird ways, you get dirty.
He never won a match at the French Open and he hardly won any match on clay.

Bublik isn't that keen to play on clay either, so I expect an entertaining match.

Bet 1: Bublik +5.5 @1.90
Bet 2: Over 36 games @1.97

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2 years 9 months ago #12 by The Vann
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Ruud v Paire
Paire has had a poor season and is 2 from 14. He withdrew injured last week. Ruud is my fancy from this section to make the quarters. The bet is 50/50 whether Paire wants to play or not so taking the odds against
Ruud v Paire
Ruud under 18.5 games @ 23/20

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2 years 9 months ago #13 by The Vann
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I am settling on Cilic v Rinderknech for my long odds pick of the day.
Cilic has been poor this season whilst Rinderknech has a win/loss ratio of 2/1. Just over a week ago he took the second set off Norrie on clay in Lyon. I think he has a shot at winning here but the 12/10 is thin so taking
Cilic v Rinderknech
Double result
Cilic/Rinderknech @ 25/4 (Cilic win first set and lose match)

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2 years 9 months ago #14 by Quill
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Struff vs Rublev

Rublev led the tour with five titles last year and he is currently third in the race to Turin behind Novak Djokovic and Stefanos Tsitsipas. Struff managed to be competitive when they met in Rome recently, but for the most part he hasn’t been in great form of late and he is coming off a 6-2, 6-4 loss to Tommy Paul in Parma. Struff would have a better chance against Rublev on a faster surface.

The odds for Rublev to win 3-0 are 1.72, but I found a slightly better option:

Total Games Under 32.5 @1.83.
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2 years 9 months ago #15 by Quill
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Gaston vs Gasquet over 37.5 games @1.90

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2 years 9 months ago #16 by Quill
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Verdasco to beat Kohlschreiber @2.30

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2 years 9 months ago #17 by Quill
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Delbonis vs Andujar

Two clay-courters who won their respective matches in the first round in 4 and 5 sets respectively.
Their last encounter was in October last year in Italy, a match that went the distance in 3 long sets.

Bet: Over 36.5 games @1.92

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2 years 9 months ago #18 by The Vann
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Lost Rublev on my out rights yesterday - big surprise.

Khachanov v Nishikori
My pick for the games match. Neither on top form and went to three sets with 29 games early in May on the clay of Madrid.

Over 39.5 games @ 21/20

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2 years 9 months ago #19 by The Vann
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Fucsovics + Opelka @ 24/10

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2 years 9 months ago #20 by The Vann
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Not making any money from Fognini - He is way off my Christmas card list. Will watch some tennis after the cricket this evening.
Paul won the junior French Open and is not horrible on clay. Medvedev was much better in the first round than he normally is on this surface but I fancy the old USA v Russia to inspire Paul to sneak a set. In the unlikely event that Medvedev tanks I'm taking something that covers this

Paul v Medvedev
Match to be four sets exactly @ 18/10

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2 years 9 months ago - 2 years 9 months ago #21 by The Vann
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Nice of Paul to win that first set last night. I see we got two of the five setters as our games matches yesterday Quill so did OK. My games match from early starters is

Schwarzman v Bedene

Schwarzman's form coming in has been poor on clay and Bedene has beaten him a few times on this surface although not recently. Just feel Bedene may sneak a set and run him close in another.

Match games over 36.5 @ evens
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2 years 9 months ago #22 by The Vann
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Koepfer v Federer
Lovely to see the old guy with the dodgy knees in the last 32 on his least favored surface. Has also been deprived of the crowd on his side by giving him the late slot. Just have to believe Koepfer can run up a few games against Roger and will probably take a set.

Match Games over 36.5 @ evens

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2 years 9 months ago #23 by The Vann
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Tsitsipas/Medvedev/Fokina/Zverev @ 23/10
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2 years 9 months ago #24 by The Vann
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Davidovich Fokina v Delbonis
In theory this is the match which should produce the most games today and is the closest to call.
Total games in match
Over 38.5 @ evens
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Davidovich Fokina - 1.5 games @ 11/10
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2 years 9 months ago #25 by Quill
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The Vann wrote: Davidovich Fokina v Delbonis
In theory this is the match which should produce the most games today and is the closest to call.
Total games in match
Over 38.5 @ evens
and
Davidovich Fokina - 1.5 games @ 11/10

No time these days to check out the tennis scene, so I'm following you with these bets and the earlier multiple.

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Schwartzman v Struff
Schwartzman has been poor entering this tournament and the players he has beaten thus far are not the quality of Rublev and Alcazar - both beaten by Struff. I think Struff has a better chance then the 18/10 floating around but I prefer to rely on his big serve to keep him in the sets so going with

Match games over 37.5 @ 21/20
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Match tiebreaks over 0.5 @ 13/10

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2 years 9 months ago #27 by Quill
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Nadal vs Sinner

Sinner has the kind of game and has enough control and concentration to make Nadal uncomfortable. He should play well enough to at least give himself some chances, as he did in Rome a few weeks ago.
These two players met twice so far, and although Nadal won in straight sets (French Open last year and Rome a few weeks ago), it wasn't a walk in the park and Sinner kept close and created problems to Nadal in both matches.

Bet: Sinner +8.5 @1.88
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2 years 9 months ago #28 by The Vann
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Zverev v Davidovich Fokina

Should be pretty easy for Zverev. Only oddity lies with my books.
I can choose sets of Zverev to win 3-0 at 15/20 or you can have Zverev -2.5sets at 19/20. After wrestling with this for a long time I have gone with

Zverev -2.5 sets @ 19/20
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2 years 9 months ago #29 by Quill
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I cannot get myself to take Zverev on a 3-0 or -2.5 sets win, as I vaguely think that Fokina can take him to over 31.5 games (odds 1.80 bet365), but also opposing your bets, Vann, I don't feel comfortable doing, as I know you have some amazing hits, so I took Zverev to win in a multi with Poland and Chile @2.00.
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2 years 9 months ago #30 by Quill
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Tsitsipas vs Medvedev

Tsitsipas is 20-3 this clay court season with his losses coming to Nadal, Djokovic and clay-courter Casper Ruud, winning events at Monte Carlo and Lyon. His run this French Open hasn’t been easy, but he’s won all four matches with ease including smashing the 12th ranked Pablo Carreno Busta in straight sets.

Despite struggling on clay across his career, Daniil Medvedev has impressed this French Open – but Tsitsipas is on another level and should be too good in three or four sets.

Bet 1: Tsitsipas -3.5 @1.80
Bet 2: Medvedev total games Under 18.5 @2.01
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2 years 9 months ago #31 by The Vann
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Tsitsipas v Medvedev

Not quite on the same page as Quill this evening (which is unusual). Thought the Zverev match was an easy call and went large. This match is more difficult. I see a pretty even two set start and then one or the other running out a winner. Smaller bet then earlier

Total Sets 4 @ 17/10
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2 years 9 months ago #32 by Quill
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Nadal vs Schwartzman

Schwartzman was winless in four matches before entering the French Open, and he is nowhere near his best at the moment.
With Struff the Argentinian trailed 1-5 in the first set and later saved five set points on return before stealing the set in the tiebreaker and win in three tight sets, 7-6 6-4 7-5.

Nadal hasn't had such issues and dispatched his opposition quite comfortably so far. There is nothing to suggest that Schwartzman is capable of putting up a fierce resistance here, although the handicap might be a tad too big at - 9.5, and a +9.5 could arrive.

Bet 1: Schwartzman Under 10.5 games @1.83
Bet 2: Total Games Under 29.5 @1.80

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2 years 9 months ago #33 by Quill
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Pavlyuchenkova + Sakkari @2.46

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2 years 9 months ago - 2 years 9 months ago #34 by Quill
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I think The Vann will like this bet, I've taken Harris to beat Auger-Aliassime @2.33.

Harris has an offensive style with a very good first serve.
In the first round he beat Simon in 2 sets serving 14 aces.
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2 years 9 months ago - 2 years 9 months ago #35 by Quill
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Stuttgart

Humbert to beat Auger-Aliassime

Humbert is playing better on grass, after a disappointing clay season. He won both matches here without losing a set and serving well.

Felix Auger-Aliassime is also coming after a weaker period, losing at the French Open in the first round. He doesn't seem to have gotten used to Toni Nadal and his demands, and at the moment his game is not convincing.
In his first match here he gave 10 break points, saving 9 of them.

Bet: Humbert @2.00, bet365
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2 years 9 months ago #36 by Quill
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Konta + Querrey @2.47

Konta plays in WTA Nottingham, Querrey ATP Stuttgart.

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2 years 9 months ago #37 by Quill
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Tsitsipas is much better on clay than Zverev. The way he beat Medvedev (leaving aside the fact that Medvedev doesn't like to play on clay - at this French Open he liked it and he played amazing tennis), and the way he beat all his other opponents, his constantly good first serve and his returns...
Zverev didn't have high calibre opponents (Nishikori still isn't what he used to be), whereas Tsitsipas was dominant against no. 12 as well (Careno Busta).

Nadal vs Djokovic... On clay Nadal beat Djokovic 8 months ago in the final here, then he beat him in Rome a few weeks ago. Djokovic should wait until they meet on a hard surface to beat Nadal.

Bet: Tsitsipas + Nadal @2.02
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2 years 9 months ago #38 by The Vann
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Like the double Quill but 17/20 at my books. Just feel its too short.

Zverev v Tsitsipas
My feeling is Zverev can be quite mercurial. On a good day he could beat anyone or at least take a set so I'm going with

Four sets exactly @ 17/10

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The Vann wrote: Like the double Quill but 17/20 at my books. Just feel its too short.

Zverev v Tsitsipas
My feeling is Zverev can be quite mercurial. On a good day he could beat anyone or at least take a set so I'm going with

Four sets exactly @ 17/10

My double is with bet365.

I like the 4 sets exactly, following you on that.

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Djokovic v Tsitsipas
These two met in the semi's eight months ago and Djokovic won in five sets ( 46 games ). I'm carrying Tsitsipas at 9/2 but if I was not I think the 5/2 is quite tasty. Players should provide some quality entertainment so taking

Total Games over 38.5 @ 19/20
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The Vann wrote: Djokovic v Tsitsipas
These two met in the semi's eight months ago and Djokovic won in five sets ( 46 games ). I'm carrying Tsitsipas at 9/2 but if I was not I think the 5/2 is quite tasty. Players should provide some quality entertainment so taking

Total Games over 38.5 @ 19/20

I'm taking the same bet.

Last month in Rome these two players gave us a long match too.

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