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2 months 6 days ago #1
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I am quite worn out after a hectic weekend of Investec Champions Cup action. The newsletter bet Bulls over 5.5 tries arrived with ease (
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A small profit overall but a feeling that things should have been better.
Here are the fixtures
Friday
• 21:35: Glasgow Warriors vs Connacht Rugby
• 21:35: Ospreys vs Benetton Treviso
Saturday
• 14:45: Lions vs Bulls
• 17:00: Scarlets vs Edinburgh Rugby
• 19:00: Leinster Rugby vs Stormers
• 19:15: Cardiff Rugby vs Sharks
• 21:35: Dragons vs Munster
Sunday
• 19:30: Ulster Rugby vs Zebre Rugby
I am putting together a blog and may try and handicap in the morning (6 Nations going to have a big influence, more on that in the blog)
A small profit overall but a feeling that things should have been better.
Here are the fixtures
Friday
• 21:35: Glasgow Warriors vs Connacht Rugby
• 21:35: Ospreys vs Benetton Treviso
Saturday
• 14:45: Lions vs Bulls
• 17:00: Scarlets vs Edinburgh Rugby
• 19:00: Leinster Rugby vs Stormers
• 19:15: Cardiff Rugby vs Sharks
• 21:35: Dragons vs Munster
Sunday
• 19:30: Ulster Rugby vs Zebre Rugby
I am putting together a blog and may try and handicap in the morning (6 Nations going to have a big influence, more on that in the blog)
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2 months 5 days ago #2
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The
URC Rd 10 Blog is up
with a look at how many players clubs lose to the 6 Nations
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2 months 5 days ago - 2 months 5 days ago #3
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Have to agree almost exhausted after last few days. One of my best rugby punting weekends for a long time. Only sarries spoilt the run.
Speaking of 6 nations-
Have fired into France -23 @ 10/11.
I cannot have Wales keeping within 30. They lost by over 30 at home to both Boks and Aus. Should hsvf lost to Boks by 50+ but SA almost lost interest. Also lost at home to Fiji.
Now they travel to Paris playing against a team whose stars are looking blood-thirsty in their club games and will bring that form to national side.
Hurt for Wales incoming…
Speaking of 6 nations-
Have fired into France -23 @ 10/11.
I cannot have Wales keeping within 30. They lost by over 30 at home to both Boks and Aus. Should hsvf lost to Boks by 50+ but SA almost lost interest. Also lost at home to Fiji.
Now they travel to Paris playing against a team whose stars are looking blood-thirsty in their club games and will bring that form to national side.
Hurt for Wales incoming…
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2 months 5 days ago #4
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Handicap at Betx
If all Leinster squad members are out that +14.5 Stormers is tempting - would like confirmation of that though
Also hear that Lowe and Sheehan could be back from injury
Friday
• 21:35: Glasgow Warriors -8.5 vs Connacht
• 21:35: Ospreys -7.5 vs Benetton
Saturday
• 14:45: Lions +3.5 vs Bulls
• 17:00: Scarlets +2.5 vs Edinburgh
• 19:00: Leinster -14.5 vs Stormers
• 19:15: Cardiff +8.5 vs Sharks
• 21:35: Dragons +7.5 vs Munster
Sunday
• 19:30: Ulster -21.5 vs Zebre
If all Leinster squad members are out that +14.5 Stormers is tempting - would like confirmation of that though
Also hear that Lowe and Sheehan could be back from injury
Friday
• 21:35: Glasgow Warriors -8.5 vs Connacht
• 21:35: Ospreys -7.5 vs Benetton
Saturday
• 14:45: Lions +3.5 vs Bulls
• 17:00: Scarlets +2.5 vs Edinburgh
• 19:00: Leinster -14.5 vs Stormers
• 19:15: Cardiff +8.5 vs Sharks
• 21:35: Dragons +7.5 vs Munster
Sunday
• 19:30: Ulster -21.5 vs Zebre
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2 months 5 days ago #5
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For anyone with a paddy power or Betfair account they have released a line for Italy vs Scotland in u20 6N which I think is way off. Have taken a decent strike at plus and some on the board
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2 months 5 days ago #6
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I think I might wait later in the week before betting on any of the the Prem/Urc games that are affected by internationals.
I have the Bulls bigger favs that the 3 point gap available, they haven't been very impressive this year but on paper if both teams go full strength then bulls have the edge. Have taken Bulls -3.
I have the Bulls bigger favs that the 3 point gap available, they haven't been very impressive this year but on paper if both teams go full strength then bulls have the edge. Have taken Bulls -3.
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2 months 5 days ago #7
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Does anyone know how international players being available for clubs is determined?
Is it club by club , country or the league that decide?
It would be good to know if it is pre determined rather than have to wait on team news. Some drastic difference in some teams strength depending on whether they have internationals playing or not
Is it club by club , country or the league that decide?
It would be good to know if it is pre determined rather than have to wait on team news. Some drastic difference in some teams strength depending on whether they have internationals playing or not
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Montpellier +16.5 @1.85 2u
France don't release premium players the week before 6 Nations, and most of ST french internationals are amongst those players (Baille, Mauvaka, Marchand, Flament, Meafou, Cros, Dupont, Ntamack, Ramos + Roumat injured). Still a powerful ST side expected but Montpellier are doing great this season, my expected average line was 12 points advantage for ST so value here with this circumstances.
Bulk of French premium players are from ST and also UBB so Lou ha+ may be valuable but I just wait.
France don't release premium players the week before 6 Nations, and most of ST french internationals are amongst those players (Baille, Mauvaka, Marchand, Flament, Meafou, Cros, Dupont, Ntamack, Ramos + Roumat injured). Still a powerful ST side expected but Montpellier are doing great this season, my expected average line was 12 points advantage for ST so value here with this circumstances.
Bulk of French premium players are from ST and also UBB so Lou ha+ may be valuable but I just wait.
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I have not seen anything in black and white but would assume a week ahead of the 6 Nations none of the starting 23 will play for clubs unless perhaps returning from injury. Not clear on players outside the 23 but in the squad
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Sharkster wrote: Does anyone know how international players being available for clubs is determined?
Is it club by club , country or the league that decide?
It would be good to know if it is pre determined rather than have to wait on team news. Some drastic difference in some teams strength depending on whether they have internationals playing or not
I have not seen anything in black and white but would assume a week ahead of the 6 Nations none of the starting 23 will play for clubs unless perhaps returning from injury. Not clear on players outside the 23 but in the squad
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2 months 3 days ago #10
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Only Leinster players from the Ireland squad that is available will be Dan Sheehan, James Lowe & Will Connors.
Stormers players returning after last week is: Manie Libbok, Warrick Gelant, Leolin Zas, Seabelo Senatla, Deon Fourie & BJ Dixon.
The Stormers +14.5 looks tempting.
Stormers players returning after last week is: Manie Libbok, Warrick Gelant, Leolin Zas, Seabelo Senatla, Deon Fourie & BJ Dixon.
The Stormers +14.5 looks tempting.
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Something to consider too os that the team that leinster will play is still strong. Add in Lowe and sheehan to the mix.
Yes it is weaker than their first choice team but leinster have built a strong team for all occasions.
I'll sit on the fence for now but edging toward stormers I suppose.
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GooseintheLoose wrote: Only Leinster players from the Ireland squad that is available will be Dan Sheehan, James Lowe & Will Connors.
Stormers players returning after last week is: Manie Libbok, Warrick Gelant, Leolin Zas, Seabelo Senatla, Deon Fourie & BJ Dixon.
The Stormers +14.5 looks tempting.
Something to consider too os that the team that leinster will play is still strong. Add in Lowe and sheehan to the mix.
Yes it is weaker than their first choice team but leinster have built a strong team for all occasions.
I'll sit on the fence for now but edging toward stormers I suppose.
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Having said that they still can't win trophies recently
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Glasgow v Connacht moved to Sunday due to weather
No real handicap movement on any games
I have added weather links to the blog
No real handicap movement on any games
I have added weather links to the blog
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Yeah severe storm hitting Ireland until Friday afternoon. Worth factoring in when betting. The worst of it should be gone by any match time but maybe keep an eye nonetheless.
Apparently going to be on a par with the worst storm ireland has ever had.
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Brent Graham wrote: Glasgow v Connacht moved to Sunday due to weather
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I have added weather links to the blog
Yeah severe storm hitting Ireland until Friday afternoon. Worth factoring in when betting. The worst of it should be gone by any match time but maybe keep an eye nonetheless.
Apparently going to be on a par with the worst storm ireland has ever had.
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2 months 2 days ago #15
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Brive +5.5 they would be fired up after losing at home last week.
@Pablo your thoughts please.
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2 months 2 days ago #16
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No value IMO, strong Oyonnax side with Ruru at 9. Brive without Da Silva, Lawes, Tuivuaka, Dridi but strong side. Line well set for me, should be an arm wrestler due to Oyonnax last run of good results.
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Raider wrote: Brive +5.5 they would be fired up after losing at home last week.
@Pablo your thoughts please.
No value IMO, strong Oyonnax side with Ruru at 9. Brive without Da Silva, Lawes, Tuivuaka, Dridi but strong side. Line well set for me, should be an arm wrestler due to Oyonnax last run of good results.
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Have taken Stormers +15 and Munster -7.
Leinster will likely have Snyman and Barrett playing but unlikely Slimani starts due to his call up. Leinster should win the game without too much bother but don’t think we’ll be able to pull away.
Munster’s squad is still very strong due to not too many Irish call ups. More than enough quality to deny dragons a losing bp
Leinster will likely have Snyman and Barrett playing but unlikely Slimani starts due to his call up. Leinster should win the game without too much bother but don’t think we’ll be able to pull away.
Munster’s squad is still very strong due to not too many Irish call ups. More than enough quality to deny dragons a losing bp
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Have taken quins -4. Looking at starting teams I think quins overall stronger given impacts of 6n. Backline especially
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Money for the Stormers down to +10.5 from +14.5, I saw this move coming but so weary of those Stormers
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The money for Stormers makes sense but some kind of ptsd from betting against Leinster means none of my money wont be on them. I guess the aim is to have a better number than the closing number.
Its tricky in the prem this week also , Sarries are absolutely butchered by players injured and on international duty. They play Exeter who are nearly impossible to side with though.
Its tricky in the prem this week also , Sarries are absolutely butchered by players injured and on international duty. They play Exeter who are nearly impossible to side with though.
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I had a stab at the potential team before announcement. That’s the best I could come up with. Some of the returning players may start on the bench.
Boyle
Sheehan
Clarkson
Deeny
Snyman
Soroka/Deegan
Connors
Cuhane
McGrath
Byrne
Lowe
Barrett
Turner
King/Tommy O’Brien
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Boyle
Sheehan
Clarkson
Deeny
Snyman
Soroka/Deegan
Connors
Cuhane
McGrath
Byrne
Lowe
Barrett
Turner
King/Tommy O’Brien
A Osbourne
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THE HANDICAP will be live at 16h00 today - subscribe and set a reminder at the link below
Link to The Handicap URC Round 10 Preview
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Rugby Sevens
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New Zealand vs Uruguay over 39.5 points @1.8
Women:
USA -9.5 against Great Britain @1.83
Men:
New Zealand vs Uruguay over 39.5 points @1.8
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USA -9.5 against Great Britain @1.83
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Although Ireland is experiencing some rain the UK overnight had a little and it's dry today though overcast .
Going for Northampton on the plus 7.5 as my main interest tonight , the line for points is very low in the Ospreys game and will keep an eye on the weather etc.
Going for Northampton on the plus 7.5 as my main interest tonight , the line for points is very low in the Ospreys game and will keep an eye on the weather etc.
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2uOver 46.5 pts mont de marsan montauban
1u over 53.5 pts grenoble biarritz
1u over 53.5 pts grenoble biarritz
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Uruguay v Kenya 7s.
Uruguay beat NZ and Fiji in the group. Their final match is against Kenya, who lost both their games.
H2H
Of the last 6 H2Hs, Uruguay won 5 and drew the 6th.
Uruguay to win is available at 2.5-1 with the handicap set at +7.5
Not sure what the bookies know, but they seem to have the wrong favourite
Uruguay beat NZ and Fiji in the group. Their final match is against Kenya, who lost both their games.
H2H
Of the last 6 H2Hs, Uruguay won 5 and drew the 6th.
Uruguay to win is available at 2.5-1 with the handicap set at +7.5
Not sure what the bookies know, but they seem to have the wrong favourite
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I like that look Eduard, played the +8.5 on bet365 and sprinkled on the ML @3.5 both on bet365.
Also played USA TT over 14.5 points against Australia @2.04 on Sportsbet
Also played USA TT over 14.5 points against Australia @2.04 on Sportsbet
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The standard of refereeing at the Perth Sevens has been absolutely horrendous. There have been numerous instances where teams playing under penalty advantage immediately turn the ball over and the referee just seemingly forgets to award the penalty. A number of new faces referee wise at this event so I wonder if they’ve just brought a load of new officials into the fold on the series. Either way, many matches where it looks like the referees have no clue how to apply the rules.
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Lions Bulls over 55.5 @ 20/23
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Lions v Bulls Preview
I am battling with this one and settled on either team by less than 8 at 23/20
I am battling with this one and settled on either team by less than 8 at 23/20
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Under 47.5 points pau-clermont @2 2
Bad weather in Pau, line for me in the low 40's
Bad weather in Pau, line for me in the low 40's
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Leicester +1.5, 2.20, 1 unit
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Gone by the look of it. They're going for 3's (and missing) and cant be bothered to chase kicks .....
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southpaw wrote: Lions Bulls over 55.5 @ 20/23
Gone by the look of it. They're going for 3's (and missing) and cant be bothered to chase kicks .....
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Yep overs dead. I felt like it was after 5 min. Last week was opposite, overs couldn’t miss. I’m okay with that, one of those things.
Might tail Brent with a Stormers overs play later.
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You were saying?
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southpaw wrote: Yep overs dead. I felt like it was after 5 min. Last week was opposite, overs couldn’t miss. I’m okay with that, one of those things.
Might tail Brent with a Stormers overs play later.
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can't believe it, had completely written this one off. Penalty count went through the roof and points just flowed.
The old reverse psychology did the trick!
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southpaw wrote: Yep overs dead. I felt like it was after 5 min. Last week was opposite, overs couldn’t miss. I’m okay with that, one of those things.
Might tail Brent with a Stormers overs play later.
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can't believe it, had completely written this one off. Penalty count went through the roof and points just flowed.
The old reverse psychology did the trick!
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2 months 14 hours ago #39
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Thankfully bulls cover. Even for the weekend.
Looking at teams in the prem Leicester are still able to field a decent team as are glos. I'll take a bit of the plus 4.5 on Leicester.
Looking at teams in the prem Leicester are still able to field a decent team as are glos. I'll take a bit of the plus 4.5 on Leicester.
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2 months 12 hours ago #40
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Add Cardiff plus 10.5
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2 months 11 hours ago #41
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Nice afternoon in France with Montpellier +16.5 and u47.5 in Pau arriving.
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2 months 10 hours ago #42
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Profits thrown away on the Stormers ....
I now have to rely on the Dragons +11.5 to save the day .....
Replied by Jameson on topic Rugby: URC Round 10, Gallagher Prem, Top 14 + other 24-26 January
southpaw wrote:
Jameson wrote:
southpaw wrote: Yep overs dead. I felt like it was after 5 min. Last week was opposite, overs couldn’t miss. I’m okay with that, one of those things.
Might tail Brent with a Stormers overs play later.
You were saying?
can't believe it, had completely written this one off. Penalty count went through the roof and points just flowed.
The old reverse psychology did the trick!
Profits thrown away on the Stormers ....
I now have to rely on the Dragons +11.5 to save the day .....
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2 months 10 hours ago #43
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Stormers. What a disaster of a team. Disgrace. Shame.
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2 months 10 hours ago #44
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Really poor by the Stormers and I'm back to square one , I'm with you Jameson , Dragons on the plus .
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2 months 10 hours ago #45
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Turning into a poor weekend with Cardiff loss
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2 months 9 hours ago #46
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FFS , Dragons worse than ever . Going into Sunday on the back foot.
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2 months 9 hours ago #47
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A new low level - even for the Dregs.
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coil wrote: FFS , Dragons worse than ever . Going into Sunday on the back foot.
A new low level - even for the Dregs.
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2 months 9 hours ago #48
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It's not like it's a surprise. They're shocking week in week out
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2 months 9 hours ago #49
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Except for last week when if memory serves they lost in the 86th minute.
Replied by Jameson on topic Rugby: URC Round 10, Gallagher Prem, Top 14 + other 24-26 January
henryscat wrote: It's not like it's a surprise. They're shocking week in week out
Except for last week when if memory serves they lost in the 86th minute.
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2 months 8 hours ago #50
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Well beaten by the 86th minute
Replied by Sharkster on topic Rugby: URC Round 10, Gallagher Prem, Top 14 + other 24-26 January
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henryscat wrote: It's not like it's a surprise. They're shocking week in week out
Except for last week when if memory serves they lost in the 86th minute.
Well beaten by the 86th minute
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