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1 month 3 weeks ago #1 by Brent Graham
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Not alot of joy for me in the URC last week and followers of the newsletter came back down to earth with a bang as the Stormers dropped us badly.

I didn't get too involved on Sunday thank goodness as fancied Ulster -24.5 and they lost to Zebre - not quite as big as Saracens losing to Castre last week but another huge upset.

SIX NATIONS
I love the 6 Nations which gets going this weekend

Here is the latest outright betting at Betxchange

France 16/10
Ireland 16/10
England 3/1
Scotland 11/2
Wales 60/1
Italy 134/1

Other markets of interest include

Grand Slam winner NO at 15/20
Ireland to win Triple Crown at 27/20
Penaud top try scorer at 8.25/1

1st Round Handicaps
France -26.5 v Wales (as South predicted moved from -23.5) Points 55.5
Scotland -19.5 v Italy, Points 53.5
Ireland -7.5 v England, Points 46.5

I will get a 6 Nations Round 1 blog going in the morning and will look at some long term plays as well as round 1 matches

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1 month 3 weeks ago #2 by southpaw
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Grand slam = France @ 4/1

Has there ever been a better 4/1 bet in rugby? Absolute steal this. Ireland the only danger but simply nowhere near the French if DuPont and co in the mood.

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1 month 3 weeks ago - 1 month 3 weeks ago #3 by Jameson
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Just remember, the 6N always throws up one or two surprises. Sadly, as a Welsh supporter, I doubt if any of the tests Wales are involved in will produce one ..... :-)

That's a large handicap for an opening fixture this Friday though :-o
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1 month 3 weeks ago #4 by Brent Graham
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The Six Nations Round 1 Blog is up

Taking a high level look at fixtures and outright and round 1 betting. Will add to it as the week progresses

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1 month 3 weeks ago #5 by Jameson
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I feel that the bookmakers are taking the piss giving Wales a 26.5 pt start for the opening 6N test this Friday - and I'm going to punish them!

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1 month 3 weeks ago - 1 month 3 weeks ago #6 by Laraxwell
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A few 6N outright punts

Highest scoring match: France v Wales (sorry Jameson)
Found this at 9/1 @ ladbrokes (5/1 @ Bet365)

Ramos is unbackable at 8/15 top pointscorer
I won same bet on him in 2023 @ 4/1

Dupont is obvs short @7/4 player of the tournament but perhaps value with:
Emmanuel Meafou 20/1
Louis Bielle- Biarrey 16/1
Caolen Doris 10/1
Decent options as all are in top form for clubs

Top tournament point scoring team : France @ 6/4 Bet365

Best of luck all
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1 month 3 weeks ago #7 by southpaw
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Jameson wrote: I feel that the bookmakers are taking the piss giving Wales a 26.5 pt start for the opening 6N test this Friday - and I'm going to punish them!


I totally agree, taking the piss. Should be at least +36.5 start.

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1 month 3 weeks ago #8 by Jameson
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lol - we'll see :-P

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1 month 3 weeks ago #9 by TheAdmiral
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Agree with the France top scoring nation mentioned above. They should end around 150 imo. Only real challenger is Ireland and I thought our attack is beginning to look very turgid and laboured

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1 month 3 weeks ago #10 by Gareth75
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southpaw wrote: Grand slam = France @ 4/1

Has there ever been a better 4/1 bet in rugby? Absolute steal this. Ireland the only danger but simply nowhere near the French if DuPont and co in the mood.


Thinking of going a different route, Backing Scotland Grand slam 28/1 & hoping they get to the France game in Paris in round 5, to then give the option to possibly lay off some of it by backing France

Scotland got 3 home games & (Away to England & France)
France got 2 home games & (Away to England, Italy & Ireland)

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1 month 3 weeks ago #11 by Gareth75
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Thomas Ramos 66/1 (1-6 places, 1/5) Top Try scorer
Yes the winner will probably come from the one of the usual suspects at the top of the market , but cant ignore that price for a speculative bet hoping to get into the mix with the place part of the bet. Must be one the next few players inked in on the team sheet after Dupont, Usually the full 80 mins in games, Pops up with a try or 2 in games. Toulouse and Bordeaux been scoring tries for fun
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1 month 3 weeks ago #12 by Jameson
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I see that the French injury list is growing. The starting XV for Fridays test wont exactly be1st choice.

OK OK I'm clutching at straws ..... :-)

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1 month 3 weeks ago #13 by southpaw
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Jameson wrote: I see that the French injury list is growing. The starting XV for Fridays test wont exactly be1st choice.

OK OK I'm clutching at straws ..... :-)


Desperate times Jameson. Possible rain might help you Friday. Sadly for Wales, Penaud's replacement is the hottest new wing in French rugby and with LBB on the other wing i think it's going to be a long night in Paris for the away fans...

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1 month 3 weeks ago #14 by Gareth75
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southpaw wrote:

Jameson wrote: I see that the French injury list is growing. The starting XV for Fridays test wont exactly be1st choice.

OK OK I'm clutching at straws ..... :-)


Desperate times Jameson. Possible rain might help you Friday. Sadly for Wales, Penaud's replacement is the hottest new wing in French rugby and with LBB on the other wing i think it's going to be a long night in Paris for the away fans...


Won’t Ghalthie go with Villiere like he has normally ?

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1 month 3 weeks ago - 1 month 3 weeks ago #15 by Jameson
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southpaw wrote:

Jameson wrote: I see that the French injury list is growing. The starting XV for Fridays test wont exactly be1st choice.

OK OK I'm clutching at straws ..... :-)


Desperate times Jameson. Possible rain might help you Friday. Sadly for Wales, Penaud's replacement is the hottest new wing in French rugby and with LBB on the other wing i think it's going to be a long night in Paris for the away fans...


Being 'new', the occasion will get to him and he'll fluff his lines :-)

Weather looks dry in Paris though.
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1 month 3 weeks ago #16 by southpaw
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Gareth75 wrote:

southpaw wrote:

Jameson wrote: I see that the French injury list is growing. The starting XV for Fridays test wont exactly be1st choice.

OK OK I'm clutching at straws ..... :-)


Desperate times Jameson. Possible rain might help you Friday. Sadly for Wales, Penaud's replacement is the hottest new wing in French rugby and with LBB on the other wing i think it's going to be a long night in Paris for the away fans...


Won’t Ghalthie go with Villiere like he has normally ?


Inside circles suggest it will be Pau flyer Attissogbe. Watched this lad when France sent B side to Argentina. Was electric.

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1 month 3 weeks ago - 1 month 3 weeks ago #17 by Gareth75
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Your circles were correct
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1 month 3 weeks ago #18 by Gareth75
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A couple more speculative bets on tournament

G. Aldritt - Top tryscorer each way (125/1 1-6 places)

Pierre L Barassi - Top tryscorer each way (100/1 1-6 places)

Louis Bielle Biarrey - Player of tournament (20/1)

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1 month 3 weeks ago #19 by Jameson
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That Welsh starting XV looks better than that fielded recently. A good back 3 and back row. I hope the centres can do something though.

Bricking it.

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1 month 3 weeks ago #20 by The Vann
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Guys is there appetite for a buy in Superbru for 6 Nations? R500 as usual


Looks like no takers here Brent. If you open one at R100 I will put up R1,000 for the winner with all the R100's going to my local Hermanus Animal Welfare. Happy to have it run on an honour basis if you know all the players.
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1 month 3 weeks ago #21 by ProveMeWrong
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The Vann wrote:

Brent Graham wrote:
Guys is there appetite for a buy in Superbru for 6 Nations? R500 as usual


Looks like no takers here Brent. If you open one at R100 I will put up R1,000 for the winner with all the R100's going to my local Hermanus Animal Welfare. Happy to have it run on an honour basis if you know all the players.


Flip I didnt even see this. I would be very keen!

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1 month 3 weeks ago #22 by Kirky
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Yeah, I'll play..

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1 month 3 weeks ago #23 by Brent Graham
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Sorry lads a bit hectic this week and won't have time to get things going but will look to do a forum competition at some point. Thanks for that great offer Vann,

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1 month 3 weeks ago #24 by Brent Graham
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Great to meet and chat with The Admiral who is the same age as my son LOL

A pity about the wifi in Ireland but really enjoyed the chat and he has a great rugby knowledge - oh to be young again!

Six Nations Blog updated with some long term plays, mainly forum picks and a couple from the show

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1 month 3 weeks ago #25 by Dfurlong1986
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France 2 or more converted try’s in each half. Take my money. Ramos doesn’t miss 10/11

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1 month 3 weeks ago #26 by Gareth75
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Couple of Six nations specials

T.Ramos (Top Points Scorer), France (Top 2 Finish), Wales (Finish Bottom), Italy (Over 85.5 Tournament points) - (6/1)

Louis Bielle Biarrey (France Top Tryscorer), G.Darcy (Scotland Top Tryscorer), Italy (Over 85.5 Tournament points), Wales (Under 10.5 Tournament Tries) - (16/1)

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1 month 3 weeks ago #27 by TheAdmiral
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Evening all, Apologies about my wifi on the show earlier. Seems as though loadshedding has reached Ireland. For what it’s worth I think England + is the way to go in that game, but patriotism will stop me from playing that. Best bet this weekend definitely Scotland under 36

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1 month 3 weeks ago - 1 month 3 weeks ago #28 by sportsbettor
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-France to not win both halves, 4.50, 3 units

-Wales to lead, 2.25, 1 unit

-Wales +10.5, 5.00, 0.5 of a unit
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1 month 3 weeks ago #29 by NastyNate
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@Admiral, just listened to last night’s show on way in to office. I’m in UK. Where were you looking at the u20 lines? I saw Ireland/England up most of the week, but haven’t seen France/Wales at all and Scotland/Italy only briefly last week before it got pulled. What sites do you mainly use for your punting (I’m fresh off the boat from SA).

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1 month 3 weeks ago #30 by Brent Graham
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France v Wales Preview

Battled with this one

Wales u14.5 at 10/11

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1 month 3 weeks ago #31 by coil
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The 6 Nations starts and France are expected to smash Wales , a 27 point handicap looks huge but then one thinks how poor Wales are and the load of injuries they are carrying . I have no feel on this game and at this stage no bet .

Tomorrow I am with Italy and will be looking for them on the HT handicap plus 8.5 and will back it up with some more plus Italy FT tomorrow.

Finally Ireland/England should be a great game, , I'm liking unders but the quote of 43.5 looks a little low, I'll have an initial bet on the unders but look to get more involved if there is a fast start

Just the 3 games so each one will count massively.

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1 month 3 weeks ago #32 by TheAdmiral
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The 20s games were a bit weird this week. Betfair randomly released odds for the Ita Sco game around 10 days ago. It was then pulled and released and pulled again, this was pretty strange, certainly the first time I’d seen anything like that. The general rule is Bet365 are first out with lines, i believe that was the case for the other two u20 games. They’re the main site you’d want, they’re normally the first to come out with odds so vital if you want to catch the early value. In order of importance I’d say it goes 365, Betway, SkyBet, Betfair/Paddy Power (they’re the same thing mostly), Boyles, William Hill, SpreadEx. Other sites like Ladbrokes, Unibet and Betfred etc are useful occasionally, but once you have 365 and a few others from the list above you’re ready to go.

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1 month 3 weeks ago #33 by Laraxwell
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@ Good stuff on the show last night @ Admiral

Not bad atall for a Leinster lad!
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1 month 3 weeks ago - 1 month 3 weeks ago #34 by Jameson
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Raining 20 mins before KO - just a shower but it will be a bit greasy. Wales +28 @ EVENs
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1 month 3 weeks ago #35 by Raider
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I am on wales +31.5 @1.52

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1 month 3 weeks ago #36 by coil
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Wales looking toothless at this stage , they'll need to score something to try stay in teh cap .

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1 month 3 weeks ago #37 by Jameson
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Raider wrote: I am on wales +31.5 @1.52


Wales not looking too bad but still being cut to shreds. Looks like getting ugly.

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1 month 3 weeks ago #38 by coil
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Agree Jamieson , Wales have played ok , but their complete inability to mount an attack is quite staggering. Not one player in the backline has any gas or any spark . Maybe France will switch off .

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1 month 3 weeks ago #39 by Jameson
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coil wrote: Agree Jamieson , Wales have played ok , but their complete inability to mount an attack is quite staggering. Not one player in the backline has any gas or any spark . Maybe France will switch off .


That's what I'm hoping for - I've gone +47.5 but to win that Wales need to score ......

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1 month 3 weeks ago #40 by Jameson
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Ref seems not to like us Welsh! Helping the Frogs out a lot anyway .... :-)

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1 month 3 weeks ago #41 by Jameson
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Small profit on the evening with that recover bet.

Disappointed with Wales but I think we'll have enough to take Italy.

But bloody hell, that's a one eyed ref if ever there was one. The biscuit was that yellow card for offside 70M from out goal line while the French were offside all game!

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1 month 3 weeks ago - 1 month 3 weeks ago #42 by Kirky
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:huh: :dry: :woohoo: :beer
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1 month 3 weeks ago #43 by Brent Graham
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Great early call on the -23.5 France South (last weeks thread) and a decent start for me with Wales under 14.5 trotting up

Must admit I dozed off in the 2nd half but sadly for Wales they didn't play too badly and were just beaten by a far superior team - that will be hard to change

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1 month 3 weeks ago #44 by Jameson
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Brent Graham wrote: Great early call on the -23.5 France South (last weeks thread) and a decent start for me with Wales under 14.5 trotting up

Must admit I dozed off in the 2nd half but sadly for Wales they didn't play too badly and were just beaten by a far superior team - that will be hard to change


Stay awake man!

Plenty of possession but didn't know what to do with it ....

That's the 2nd time we've been nilled by the French - I had the misfortune of being at the 1st - Wembley 1998. 0 - 51. Its an exclusive club with only Namibia for company. Says it all ...........

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1 month 3 weeks ago #45 by Brent Graham
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:lol: :lol: :lol: Wales and B Namibia - love it

Ireland v England Preview

Not strong

England win 5/2
Points 35-41 33/10
Dan LTS 22/1

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1 month 3 weeks ago #46 by southpaw
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Satisfying start to the 6N. Poor old Wales showed some great guts but France nowhere near their best and cantered home.

A bit against the grain today, but i like how Karl Dickson tries to get sides to speed up game and going overs in Edinburgh -

SCO ITA over 52.5 pts @ 20/23

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1 month 3 weeks ago - 1 month 3 weeks ago #47 by Laraxwell
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U20 6 Nations

2 low scoring matches so far

France U20 v Wales U20 in Vannes tonight
29-11 Fra in WC semi final last time these sides met.

Not easy to knock the lights out in the first match.
Difficult to have confidence in Welsh rugby at present but there are shoots of optimism in the underage side. Some squad players are with strong premiership sides - Bath, Bristol, and Leicester.
I think the 27pt handicap is alot and I'm playing it.

Wales +27 @10/11 Boyles
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1 month 3 weeks ago #48 by Raider
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I am on Italy +23.5 into England +16.5 multi hopefully my recovery starts with these games after Wales disappointment.

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1 month 3 weeks ago #49 by Laraxwell
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Ealing Trailfinders +5pts away to Saracens in The Premiership Rugby Cup

Will also play Ealing on the board at ~ 7/4

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1 month 3 weeks ago #50 by coil
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Good start for most , I never had a bet in the end but might have backed Wales plus in running so would no doubt have lost possibly depending on where I got involved . Brent you must have loved Wales under 14.5 with their play resembling the Western Force of old .... that is .... a fair amount of ball but could do fuk all with it !!! .

So I'm on the Italians HT plus 8.5 , have taken plus 18.5 and will get further involved at bigger plusses in running if they should come about .

Later on I still fancy the unders in Dublin but need 44.5 minimum so shopping around .

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