Rugby: 6 Nations Round 2, URC Stormers v Bulls + other rugby 7-9 Feb

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1 week 8 hours ago - 6 days 18 hours ago #1 by Brent Graham
It is a strange feeling to start the rugby thread on a Sunday morning but with betting already up for round 2 of the 6 Nations and all of this weekends rugby done it is time to look ahead.

I had a decent round 1 with Wales unders romping home (as Jackal Rugby said in his blog Wales were lucky to get nil) and the Scotland unders delivering the main newsletter play - thanks The Admiral

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Lost a bit on England to win but never really got involved in that game in the end.

Six Nations Round 2
We already have caps and based on a post on last weeks thread there has been some early line movement

Italy -6.5 v Wales (moved from -4.5)
England +4.5 v France
Scotland +4.5 v Ireland

There is also a lone URC game Stormers v Bulls and I think the Bulls may be around -4.5 for this one

Have a great week everyone and the rugby blog will be up tomorrow with any betting moves, key squad news and an early look at next weeks weather

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6 days 18 hours ago #2 by Jameson
I've just removed Jackal Rugby from my xmas card list!

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5 days 20 hours ago #3 by southpaw
points lines:

ITA V WAL - 46.5
ENG V FRA - 44.5
SCO V IRE - 44.5 (some 43.5 about)

I'm tempted in by a few -

SCO V IRE over 43.5 pts @ 5/6

Weather looks clear for weekend, Scotland been playing with attacking mindset, don't think they try and out-muscle Ireland, can see both sides getting more chances that points line suggest.

FRANCE over 24.5 pts @ 5/6

Will likely be without Ntamack but France played average and scored with ease against Wales. England a much tougher test but still fancy French to bag a bonus pt win.

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5 days 15 hours ago #4 by Brent Graham

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5 days 2 hours ago #5 by Jameson
I think Wales will beat Italy this weekend and possibly quite comfortably!

No rational basis for this other than if there was ever a must win game this is it.

Realistically, its the best chance of a win until the summer tour over in Japan. So if Italy are victorious then it would be 17 test losses on the trot at that point :-o

For the more cautious, Wales + 7.5pts seems like easy money ..... :-)

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5 days 2 hours ago #6 by TheAdmiral
Similar to you Southpaw I took over 44.5 in France England. Already on France -3 so didn’t want to get too heavily invested in them by backing their overs. Expected a line of 48/49 assuming weather stays dry

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5 days 20 minutes ago #7 by Brent Graham

Jameson wrote: I think Wales will beat Italy this weekend and possibly quite comfortably!

No rational basis for this other than if there was ever a must win game this is it.

Realistically, its the best chance of a win until the summer tour over in Japan. So if Italy are victorious then it would be 17 test losses on the trot at that point :-o

For the more cautious, Wales + 7.5pts seems like easy money ..... :-)


Are the bookies "taking the piss" like last week Jameson? Afraid we going to have to slap a Welsh disclaimer on you :lol: :lol:

I fancy them a bit myself mind you

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5 days 14 minutes ago #8 by southpaw
The Welsh players are trying but really Gatland should have been sent packing months ago. To compound their woes he brought in Rob Howley who must be the most out of depth coach at this level. Great player, terrible coach.

I’d like to see Wales win. I don’t really enjoy them losing as I have Welsh family and I’m running short of things to say to cheer them up!

Biggest game in many years for Wales.

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5 days 10 minutes ago #9 by Jameson

Brent Graham wrote:

Jameson wrote: I think Wales will beat Italy this weekend and possibly quite comfortably!

No rational basis for this other than if there was ever a must win game this is it.

Realistically, its the best chance of a win until the summer tour over in Japan. So if Italy are victorious then it would be 17 test losses on the trot at that point :-o

For the more cautious, Wales + 7.5pts seems like easy money ..... :-)


Are the bookies "taking the piss" like last week Jameson? Afraid we going to have to slap a Welsh disclaimer on you :lol: :lol:

I fancy them a bit myself mind you


lol I'd had too many beers when I wrote that lol but if Wales had taken the 3 chances they had?? :-)

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5 days 3 minutes ago #10 by Jameson

southpaw wrote: The Welsh players are trying but really Gatland should have been sent packing months ago. To compound their woes he brought in Rob Howley who must be the most out of depth coach at this level. Great player, terrible coach.

I’d like to see Wales win. I don’t really enjoy them losing as I have Welsh family and I’m running short of things to say to cheer them up!

Biggest game in many years for Wales.


The problem is that the WRU hired him without a performance clause in the contract? They cant afford to sack him ffs!

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4 days 23 hours ago #11 by Couch Critic
Italy are building a decent side. Gatland is building a decent bank account. Yes, Italy haven't shown they can don the favourites tag as yet but in Italy against a kak Welsh side they will get the job done.

I wish the Bookies felt like Jameson so we could make some decent coin here as 6.5 is just at that questionable mark where the bastards in red could sneak a penalty to claim a point. Still looking for th best way to back the Azzurri but am thinking the opposite view of Jameson and taking a nibble on Italy -29.5 at 9/1 for now!

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4 days 21 hours ago #12 by Jameson

Couch Critic wrote: Italy are building a decent side. Gatland is building a decent bank account. Yes, Italy haven't shown they can don the favourites tag as yet but in Italy against a kak Welsh side they will get the job done.

I wish the Bookies felt like Jameson so we could make some decent coin here as 6.5 is just at that questionable mark where the bastards in red could sneak a penalty to claim a point. Still looking for th best way to back the Azzurri but am thinking the opposite view of Jameson and taking a nibble on Italy -29.5 at 9/1 for now!


I don't think they are quite as 'kak' as you make out. Looking at the match stats for the French test, there weren't huge differences (possession was 50/50) except for one glaringly obvious stat which was the penalty count. The bastards in red were pinged off the park by that one eyed ref 3 - 12. Even the commentators raised an eyebrow at a few of them.

I look forward to you losing your life savings backing Italy lol

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4 days 17 hours ago #13 by Couch Critic
Steady on bud. Apologies if you are indeed Welsh - I'll restate the "bastards" to the 23 red "buggers"...

Not disrespecting your picks I just can't have a team who is currently ranked lower than Italy (and Fiji) and closer in points total to Georgia than the Italians.

Italy is a team on the up, in my extremely humble opinion, whilst I can't see the same "vibe" with Wales at present.

Ps. I only ever blow the life savings on the Sharks and the Protea cricket team ;)

Jameson wrote:

Couch Critic wrote: Italy are building a decent side. Gatland is building a decent bank account. Yes, Italy haven't shown they can don the favourites tag as yet but in Italy against a kak Welsh side they will get the job done.

I wish the Bookies felt like Jameson so we could make some decent coin here as 6.5 is just at that questionable mark where the bastards in red could sneak a penalty to claim a point. Still looking for th best way to back the Azzurri but am thinking the opposite view of Jameson and taking a nibble on Italy -29.5 at 9/1 for now!


I don't think they are quite as 'kak' as you make out. Looking at the match stats for the French test, there weren't huge differences (possession was 50/50) except for one glaringly obvious stat which was the penalty count. The bastards in red were pinged off the park by that one eyed ref 3 - 12. Even the commentators raised an eyebrow at a few of them.

I look forward to you losing your life savings backing Italy lol


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4 days 7 hours ago #14 by Jameson

Couch Critic wrote: Steady on bud. Apologies if you are indeed Welsh - I'll restate the "bastards" to the 23 red "buggers"...

Not disrespecting your picks I just can't have a team who is currently ranked lower than Italy (and Fiji) and closer in points total to Georgia than the Italians.

Italy is a team on the up, in my extremely humble opinion, whilst I can't see the same "vibe" with Wales at present.

Ps. I only ever blow the life savings on the Sharks and the Protea cricket team ;)

Jameson wrote:

Couch Critic wrote: Italy are building a decent side. Gatland is building a decent bank account. Yes, Italy haven't shown they can don the favourites tag as yet but in Italy against a kak Welsh side they will get the job done.

I wish the Bookies felt like Jameson so we could make some decent coin here as 6.5 is just at that questionable mark where the bastards in red could sneak a penalty to claim a point. Still looking for th best way to back the Azzurri but am thinking the opposite view of Jameson and taking a nibble on Italy -29.5 at 9/1 for now!


I don't think they are quite as 'kak' as you make out. Looking at the match stats for the French test, there weren't huge differences (possession was 50/50) except for one glaringly obvious stat which was the penalty count. The bastards in red were pinged off the park by that one eyed ref 3 - 12. Even the commentators raised an eyebrow at a few of them.

I look forward to you losing your life savings backing Italy lol


Yes I'm Welsh - and no need to apologise. Got to give and take in the business!

I am merely suggesting that whilst you could argue that Wales would not have scored against France even if they had played for another hour, the game was in fact closer than the score line suggests - and Italy are no France.

This is a massive game for us and we must win - I feel our national identity is being damaged!

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4 days 6 hours ago #15 by Couch Critic
Very big game indeed Jameson and I do agree that the stats don't look all bad from the France game. But I also feel the French were coasting for the most part. Italy were asleep in the first 20 and if you take that out it would have been a nailbiter against the Scots.

I hope your lads can pull finger (not so much for my bets) but after the Gatland stunt where he basically asked the board in the changeroom infront of the players whether he should stay or go that he has lost all respect and quite possibly the changeroom.

Let's wait and see. Bring on the weekend!

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4 days 3 hours ago #16 by Catinthehat
Thinking a draw here. Lol

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4 days 1 hour ago #17 by Gareth75

Jameson wrote:

Couch Critic wrote: Italy are building a decent side. Gatland is building a decent bank account. Yes, Italy haven't shown they can don the favourites tag as yet but in Italy against a kak Welsh side they will get the job done.

I wish the Bookies felt like Jameson so we could make some decent coin here as 6.5 is just at that questionable mark where the bastards in red could sneak a penalty to claim a point. Still looking for th best way to back the Azzurri but am thinking the opposite view of Jameson and taking a nibble on Italy -29.5 at 9/1 for now!




I don't think they are quite as 'kak' as you make out. Looking at the match stats for the French test, there weren't huge differences (possession was 50/50) except for one glaringly obvious stat which was the penalty count. The bastards in red were pinged off the park by that one eyed ref 3 - 12. Even the commentators raised an eyebrow at a few of them.

I look forward to you losing your life savings backing Italy lol


I think you’ve answered your own question here Jameson . I also looked at the stats from Friday night & couldn’t believe that there wasn’t much in it for some of the stats, & yet final score was 43-0 with France in 3rd gear. This just highlights how inept wales are with the ball. Their attack was as feeble as I’ve seen. Shaun Edwards French defence soaking it up with ease time after time. If both teams play to their ability think it will be a Italy win possibly a comfortable 10/15 pt win

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3 days 15 hours ago #18 by Sharkster
I generally try to avoid internationals i will have a couple bets but nothing major over the 6n

One that stands out is the Ireland v Scotland total of 43.5. I know internationals probably average lower than club games but this in my mind should be up near the 50s.

Am I missing something here?

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3 days 14 hours ago #19 by southpaw

Sharkster wrote: I generally try to avoid internationals i will have a couple bets but nothing major over the 6n

One that stands out is the Ireland v Scotland total of 43.5. I know internationals probably average lower than club games but this in my mind should be up near the 50s.

Am I missing something here?


Posted on Monday that the over 43.5 was my standout early bet. I have taken a view bookies are pricing this up as a typical arm wrestle when in fact Scotland like to attack and Ireland like to counter-attack. Makes for many scoring opportunities in my humble opinion.

Just a bit nervous like has held firm…

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3 days 8 hours ago #20 by Brent Graham
I missed the overs value at Twickenham and am not going to make that mistake twice

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Over 43.5 at 9/10

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3 days 7 hours ago #21 by Brent Graham
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2 days 16 hours ago #22 by Brent Graham
We finally have some betting on Stormers v Bulls

Stormers have opened +1.5

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2 days 5 hours ago #23 by Jameson
A couple of U20 games on this evening, a nice little warm up for the main event - any thoughts?

Since you lot hate us poor Welsh, I imagine you'll be on Italy -8.5 ? :-P

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2 days 3 hours ago #24 by southpaw

Jameson wrote: A couple of U20 games on this evening, a nice little warm up for the main event - any thoughts?

Since you lot hate us poor Welsh, I imagine you'll be on Italy -8.5 ? :-P


I've taken some Wales over 10.5 1st half pts @ evens. They were right in game at HT vs a good France side. Their forwards can give the Italians some trouble at scrum as had French scrum going back at times.

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1 day 23 hours ago - 1 day 22 hours ago #25 by Pablo
u53 to u49.5 Italy-Wales @1.833 2u

Ps3838 still had that line (43.5 in bet365) so big value with the rain expected

EDIT: well I´m stupid, this was u20 match so I take the opposite with some losses :(
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1 day 23 hours ago #26 by Pablo
o51.5 sale-doncaster @1.83 2u

Not a big fan of this competition but I find this line few points low, good conditions despite high humidity and strong sale team.

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1 day 18 hours ago #27 by Laraxwell
Premiership Cup

Bedford at home to Bristol
Bristol have been piling up points but like:
Bedford Over 13.5pts -10/11 @ Boyles

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1 day 17 hours ago #28 by Brent Graham
A 6 Nations Round 2 preview from Jackal Rugby who was a guest on Thursday nights show - Click here to read it

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1 day 17 hours ago #29 by Jameson

southpaw wrote:

Jameson wrote: A couple of U20 games on this evening, a nice little warm up for the main event - any thoughts?

Since you lot hate us poor Welsh, I imagine you'll be on Italy -8.5 ? :-P


I've taken some Wales over 10.5 1st half pts @ evens. They were right in game at HT vs a good France side. Their forwards can give the Italians some trouble at scrum as had French scrum going back at times.


You just know, that when a place kicker hits the post, then its really going to matter .....

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1 day 17 hours ago #30 by Brent Graham
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1 day 17 hours ago #31 by southpaw

Jameson wrote:

southpaw wrote:

Jameson wrote: A couple of U20 games on this evening, a nice little warm up for the main event - any thoughts?

Since you lot hate us poor Welsh, I imagine you'll be on Italy -8.5 ? :-P


I've taken some Wales over 10.5 1st half pts @ evens. They were right in game at HT vs a good France side. Their forwards can give the Italians some trouble at scrum as had French scrum going back at times.


You just know, that when a place kicker hits the post, then its really going to matter .....


Yep Sod’s Law. Felt robbed and then 2nd try conversion attempt was absolutely hopeless.

Stakes lowish considering it’s under 20 but still, that was annoying.

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1 day 17 hours ago #32 by Laraxwell

Laraxwell wrote: Premiership Cup

Bedford at home to Bristol
Bristol have been piling up points but like:
Bedford Over 13.5pts -10/11 @ Boyles


Love it when a bet comes home early

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1 day 16 hours ago #33 by southpaw
Stormers bulls over 48.5 @ 5/6

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1 day 16 hours ago #34 by Jameson

Brent Graham wrote: A 6 Nations Round 2 preview from Jackal Rugby who was a guest on Thursday nights show - Click here to read it


More anti Welsh drivel I see. Wales U20 just 'thrashed' Italy U20 - a harbinger of things to come tomorrow and I will love it!

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1 day 9 hours ago #35 by Brent Graham

Jameson wrote:

Brent Graham wrote: A 6 Nations Round 2 preview from Jackal Rugby who was a guest on Thursday nights show - Click here to read it


More anti Welsh drivel I see. Wales U20 just 'thrashed' Italy U20 - a harbinger of things to come tomorrow and I will love it!


You are in a no lose situation Jameson, if Wales are well beat well everyone seemed to expect it but if they win you will be unplayable :lol:

I think its going to be a tight game

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1 day 8 hours ago #36 by Brent Graham
Stormers v Bulls Preview

Over 6.5 tries at 1/1

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1 day 3 hours ago #37 by coil
Jamieson my son , have no fear the , Rourke's Drift shall be in their hearts and as a result I make them a good bet on the plus and fancy they could pull off a win too !!
I will feel for the Eyetalians though if they doo indeed pull it off as they have shown good improvement .
Wales played ok against France but couldn't score a try for of money. They'll find things easier of course against the hosts.

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1 day 56 minutes ago #38 by TheAdmiral
Scotland u20 under 19.5 points my best bet this weekend, going with 4u. Would have expected a line of less than 14

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23 hours 41 minutes ago #39 by Jameson

coil wrote: Jamieson my son , have no fear the , Rourke's Drift shall be in their hearts and as a result I make them a good bet on the plus and fancy they could pull off a win too !!
I will feel for the Eyetalians though if they doo indeed pull it off as they have shown good improvement .
Wales played ok against France but couldn't score a try for of money. They'll find things easier of course against the hosts.


lol I've gone over 40.5 (rain clearing) and the straight Welsh win - sod it ... :-)

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23 hours 38 minutes ago #40 by southpaw
Man Match Capuzzo 12/1

1st wales try Evan Lloyd 10/1

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23 hours 10 minutes ago #41 by Jameson
OK I finally admit Wales are shite.

Having said that, we'll probably beat England in Cardiff a few weeks down the line ....

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23 hours 3 minutes ago #42 by Connachtrugby0

Jameson wrote: OK I finally admit Wales are shite.

Having said that, we'll probably beat England in Cardiff a few weeks down the line ....

Your a degenerate mate

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22 hours 57 minutes ago #43 by coil
The 10 is fuking useless

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22 hours 53 minutes ago #44 by Jameson

Connachtrugby0 wrote:

Jameson wrote: OK I finally admit Wales are shite.

Having said that, we'll probably beat England in Cardiff a few weeks down the line ....

Your a degenerate mate


You're

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22 hours 47 minutes ago #45 by Chiefie
Shout out to wales who couldn’t score over 3.5 FH points in my bet builder.

Will be going unders on every points line that comes up for them.

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22 hours 47 minutes ago #46 by Jameson
Wales are a shambles in every way - they look like they don't want to be there.

The entire coaching staff need to walk - preferably before full time.

Really sad.

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22 hours 19 minutes ago #47 by coil
David Chisora in the boxing tonight , fighting a complete palluka and is a nice price

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21 hours 47 minutes ago #48 by coil
Can't believe the cap arrived , with all the kicking I thought Wales wouldn't even get into the Italian 22 and finally at the end I thought they would go for posts ..... Jameson you can enjoy a pie n chips later !!

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21 hours 30 minutes ago #49 by Brent Graham
The preview 1-12 somehow arrives but I had over 43.5 and 41.5 in a coupe of multiples so a small loss for me on that one

France over 26.5 17/20

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21 hours 16 minutes ago - 21 hours 12 minutes ago #50 by coil
Unders at 50.5 at 4/5 and plus 7.5 the Poms for a lessor wage at 5/7.
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