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Big disappointments were the Stormers unders which was well beaten and going overs in the Force game instead of backing my initial handicap call and going for the Force
Onto this weekend and we have 2 big finals in Europe as well as Super Rugby and Currie Cup
Heineken Champions Cup - current handicap
Leinster -8.5 v La Rochelle
Challenge Cup - current cap
Glasgow +6.5 v Toulon
Super Rugby - projected caps
Pasifika +30.5 v Crusaders
Reds +7.5 v Blues
Highlanders -8.5 v Rebels
Chiefs -9.5 v Hurricanes
Waratahs -16.5 v Drua
Force +5.5 v Brumbies
Currie Cup - projected handicaps
WP -9.5 v Pumas
Sharks -14.5 v Cheetahs (assume Sharks play some URC players)
Griffons +18.5 v Griquas
Lions -4.5 v Bulls
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Pasifika +30.5 v Crusaders (+27.5)
Reds +7.5 v Blues (+11.5)
Highlanders -8.5 v Rebels (-9.5)
Chiefs -9.5 v Hurricanes (-6.5)
Waratahs -16.5 v Drua (-8.5)
Force +5.5 v Brumbies (+13.5)
Thinking it through the -16.5 Waratahs was too big but I think the line might move into double figures
The Force have been good at home, the +5.5 was probably giving them too much credit but mak the +13.5 a good bet
3 units on an early double at WSB - Waratahs -8.5 19/20/Force +13.5 at 19/20 at 28/10
I also like the Chiefs -6.5 but not going to get involved yet
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Confidence in the scottish side as they finished the season strongly, won't be easy as Toulon rotates last week and have far more experience in this kind of matches but for me is this should be at least a 50/50 match.
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Money already down on Glasgow + handicap and also on the board.
The loss at home to Munster doesn't look so bad now and we have a neutral venue
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Laraxwell wrote: I agree, Pablo.
Money already down on Glasgow + handicap and also on the board.
The loss at home to Munster doesn't look so bad now and we have a neutral venue
I have to add that Toulon, as most of french teams except from Toulouse and La Rochelle, underperforms away from home. Glasgow has a pretty good record away and their mobile pack should be a problem for Toulon's heavy pack.
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WP -9.5 v Pumas (+6.5)
Sharks -14.5 v Cheetahs (+2.5)
Griffons +18.5 v Griquas (+13.5)
Lions -4.5 v Bulls (+4.5)
WP only lost by a point to Pumas away and beat a virtual URC Bulls team - I can't see how they are not narrow favs at least
Sharks game I am assuming URC players start to return but this Sharks team have already beaten the Cheetahs in Bloem
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Crusaders vs Moana on Friday - Surely Crusaders rest a few/ plenty? Moana over 19.5 at evens looks good as they should pick a full strength team here after resting some against the Canes. Cap is +25.5 which should come in alot with heavy rain currently predicted - Being played Mt Smart. Striking now!
Cheeky Monday multi -
Moana +27.5 & Over 52.5 Blues vs Reds & Glasgow +6.5 & La Rochelle +7.5
@ 8.1
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Mondo86 wrote: Glasgow getting no respect! Fully agree with you guys on this! Glasgow by 1-12 @ 3.34 could be a gelukkie - Could even see this line coming in and being close to a choice game by the weekend
Crusaders vs Moana on Friday - Surely Crusaders rest a few/ plenty? Moana over 19.5 at evens looks good as they should pick a full strength team here after resting some against the Canes. Cap is +25.5 which should come in alot with heavy rain currently predicted - Being played Mt Smart. Striking now!
Cheeky Monday multi -
Moana +27.5 & Over 52.5 Blues vs Reds & Glasgow +6.5 & La Rochelle +7.5
@ 8.1
Agree on Moana +25.5, they rested heavily against Hurricanes so expect full strength while Crusaders had an arm wrestler against Blues so expect some AB to rest.
Also SR +8.5, I don't think will be an easy match for Leinster specially with Botia ready.
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And a couple of beers Moana dnb @ 31
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Currie Cup
WP in to -2.5 from +6.5 still less than my -9.5
Sharks -4.5 from +2.5 still less than my -14.5 and may move further on team news
Lions +1.5 from +4.5 still less than my -4.5
Super Rugby
Pasifika +20.5 from +27.5 and moving away from -30.5 with expectations of Crusaders to rest players
Reds +9.5 from +11.5 edging closer to my +7.5
Chiefs -7.5 from -6.5 edging closer to my -9.5
Waratahs -10.5 from -8.5, still some way from my -16.5 but expect it to stabilise at the 10-12 point mark
Force +12.5 from +13.5 still well short of my +5.5
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Crusaders -11.5 from -26.5
Chiefs out to -12.5 from opening call -6.5
Waratahs continue to edge out now -12.5
Some new blood on tonights THE HANDICAP live at 21h00
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Mondo makes his debut tonight joing Crowe Tips and myself at 21h00
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Pablo wrote: For the Currie Cup experts, would you take WP dnb at @1.90 ?
Yes. Pumas depth is getting tested. WP are much better equipped to deal with first choice players out because of their good junior structures.
"No team is as good or as bad as their last game."
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Saders over 30.5
Saders -7
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Moana losing both their locks doesn't bode well
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Margin punts are the value plays this week imo. With a lot of caps around the 10 mark, 1-21 margin plays at evens on TAB and Topsport are elite if you can get onto them. Otherwise, 1-12/13+ and 1-10s also have a lot of value.
Crusaders 1-21 2.5 units. Missed the early value on the plus, would take the minus if I didn't have 1-21 available. Crusaders should win this in the 11-20 bracket after Moana stick around for a while.
Similar prediction in the Blues game, 1-21 3 units. Lots of changes for the Blues but they need a win here badly, no chance this Reds team can beat NZ teams back to back. Would be on Blues minus if not for the 1-21 market.
Chiefs 1-21 3.5 units. Expect them to bounce back strong, especially with the Canes missing a few key players. Doubt it'll be a crazy blowout though, Canes should stay in touch for periods of the game. Would be on an 11-20 call without the 1-21 market.
Landers 1-21 2.5 units. No Gordon is massive, Highlanders targeting a win against the Rebels. Massive swing game vs the Rebels at home. Should put them away. Would also be on the minus.
Brumbies 1-21 2 units. Don't quite see the support for Force, but it being so widespread brings this to a 2 unit play. I think the Brumbies win comfortably, they are well coached and will chase a bonus point victory to lock in a top 2 finish. The Force will be competitive so doubt it'll be a blow out. Would be on the minus otherwise
Great show all, and happy punting
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Is Fergus Burke wearing suede crocs? His kicking for touch is village. Making about 15m off every penalty kick for touch.Quill wrote: HT Crusaders -5.5 @1.92
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Fiji -8.5 & Highlanders win & Waratahs win @ 2.8
Cheeky Saturday multi to build some funds up for the Heineken final - Either team by 7 @ 2.3 doesn't seem too bad
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2 tries in final 90 seconds to kill my accumulator.
Good times.
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Glasgow +6.5 @1.80 and SR +10 ha @1.70 both for 2u.
Glasgow in really fine form while SR will be up for this, I think won't be as easy for Leinster as odds show.
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Toulon look a lovely side on paper but let's not forget they lie 8th in the T14. They are not on the same level of Toulouse/ La Rochelle
Glasgow arse needs major kicking at HT but think it's too late
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Had over 22.5 1st half points, some Glasgow numpty just grubbered it through after the half time buzzer had gone, like, how do you not take the tackle and set up another phase.Flemenstar wrote: Yep me too. And many others on this forum. They are absolutely crap
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Completely overawed by the situation and manhandled like kids -
Shocking read by me here
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Mondo86 wrote: Glasgow absolutely diabolical -
Completely overawed by the situation and manhandled like kids -
Shocking read by me here
New game for me now, watching every time Ali Price screams and cheers for any penalty or tackle that Glasgow make. Being 24-0 down won’t stop him.
The dickhead.
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Fiji 7's v Ire 7's Win and handicap double with Aus Women v Fiji Women to get me back ahead
Good luck all!
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Brent Graham wrote: Highlander over 5.5 tries 6/5
Wow posted and seen you’d just posted exact same. Good omen I hope!
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Must say this Highlanders side are so far behind the other NZ frnachises
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