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The Toulon loss pulled me square on the weekend having backed Lyon and the Sharks but then I flew into Leinster points again and once again they failed to score against a well beaten team in the last 12 minutes, I closed up shop after that
Here are this week fixtures with my projected handicaps - not even going to attempt handicapping
Glasgow Warriors vs. Toulon
Connacht Rugby vs. Bristol Bears
Harlequins vs. Ulster
Vodacom Bulls vs. Bordeaux
Leicester Tigers vs. Leinster
Racing 92 vs. Cardiff
Munster vs. Northampton Saints
Stade Francais vs. DHL Stormers
Saracens vs. Lyon
Sale Sharks vs. La Rochelle
Toulouse vs. Bath Rugby
Bayonne vs. Exeter Chiefs
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Glasgow Warriors -7.5 vs. Toulon
Connacht Rugby +0.5 vs. Bristol Bears
Harlequins -8.5 vs. Ulster
Vodacom Bulls -10.5 vs. Bordeaux
Leicester Tigers +9.5 vs. Leinster
Racing 92 -27.5 vs. Cardiff
Munster -9.5 vs. Northampton Saints
Stade Francais +5.5 vs. DHL Stormers
Saracens -17.5 vs. Lyon
Sale Sharks +6.5 vs. La Rochelle
Toulouse -17.5 vs. Bath Rugby
Bayonne +0.5 vs. Exeter Chiefs
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Bordeaux plus 10.5
Racing -27.5
Quins -8.5
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Glasgow Warriors -7.5 vs. Toulon
4v6- every chance Toulon throw in the towel and focus on Top 14 - this handicap could move out
Connacht Rugby +0.5 vs. Bristol Bears
6v4 - Connacht look to have nothing to play for, reckon Bristol start firm favs
Harlequins -8.5 vs. Ulster
3v4 - Quins look unlikely to improve from 3rd or lose it, Ulster need to win
Vodacom Bulls -10.5 vs. Bordeaux
3v1 Bulls not safe yet I don't think, Bordeaux qualified but could lose top spot - betting suggests Bordeaux may be prepared to forfeit this one?
Leicester Tigers +9.5 vs. Leinster
3v1 - Leinster 5 points clear at top, may rest players? I like Leicester on plus here
Racing 92 -27.5 vs. Cardiff
5v6 - Both sides could sneak in if Ulster lose, Ulster result will be known by kick off.
Munster -9.5 vs. Northampton Saints
3v1 - Munster need bonus point to qualify, Saints are through but need to win to guarantee top spot
Stade Francais +5.5 vs. DHL Stormers
6v2 - Stade are gone but being at home may go for it? Stormers almost qualified and I think they will send weakened team
Saracens -17.5 vs. Lyon
5v2 - interesting betting and assumes Lyon won't chase top spot (which may be out of their reach by kick off anyway, Sarcens may have to win big to qualify
Sale Sharks +6.5 vs. La Rochelle
5v4 - basically winner goes through there should ne no resting here - Sale travelling back from SA
Toulouse -17.5 vs. Bath Rugby
1v2 - winner tops table, Bath likely to rest players and accept 2nd (need a bonus to be sure) or 3rd
Bayonne +0.5 vs. Exeter Chiefs
5v2 - Bayonne can still qualify and will know what to do, if Saints lose to Munster Exeter can finish top
I like Leicester plus 9.5 and Bristol on the board early doors
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southpaw wrote: No bets down yet as want to think thru a bit more but early ones I like -
Bordeaux plus 10.5
Racing -27.5
Quins -8.5
Info I have from France is that UBB may send a mixed team, so I'd wait to fire their hándicap as even their second team is pretty powerful.
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On that possibly Ulster plus if Quins rest, and would then avoid backing the Racing minus.
Bordeaux noted pablo, will wait for a bigger plus, as you say depth is strong.
Taken treble @ 6/1 -
Bristol win
Glasgow -7
Saracens -17
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Bayonne receives Oyo with 6 days rest after Exeter match but a friend from Bayonne told me that the feeling there is that they want to qualify for Challenge knock out. And also they are very tough to beat at home.
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Only Lucu and Moefana confirmed absences, the rest of cadres looks like will take the plane.
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Toulon surely send out the Espoirs to play Glasgow at full throttle.
I'll take Glasgow on or near that -7.5pts
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Agree, also Glasgow are gonna be mad a hell after last week.Laraxwell wrote: Agree with Brent re Glasgow
Toulon surely send out the Espoirs to play Glasgow at full throttle.
I'll take Glasgow on or near that -7.5pts
I've put 5 units on Glasgow -6.5 @ 1.96 with Pokerbet
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Blade, Bealham, Aki and O'Halloran back, Bristol with derby next weekend I think this will end up almost double digits for the home side. Tough team at home.
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Double stake as usual, Toulon with second string lineup (Priso, Brookes, Tolofua, Ribbans, Du Preez, Abadie, White, Biggar, Paaiaua, Nayacalevu, Jaminet, Wainiqolo out; not even Ollivon back as expected) I cannot see them coping with this Glasgow lineup. Sinzelle at 10 ...
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Taken +10.5 and Northampton win @4.75
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Not so long ago I would have expected Edinburgh to be sent home having been on the receiving end.
But I'm a glutton for punishment so Scarlets on the plus it is....
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Thinking only positive thoughts LOL
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Geez, I feel your pain, it's the pain of Friday nite going-to-hell-in-a-bucket and the twisting of the guts, and I really hate it.coil wrote: Shocking start to the weekend , original fancy Connacht romp home , Scarlets are no longer a rugby side and Castre despite being in the game for a while conceded some very weak tries . Losing on Friday's is so shit .
please accept my commiserations
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My Friday nite went the opposite way, that unicorn (in my life) of getting Friday nite on the button, and my -6.5 banker came through twice as I doubled-up, and is still intact 4 accas.
Not trying to gloat but I'm walking on clouds atm. It's such a great feeling
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Pleased you are going well Kirky!
Bulls v Bordeaux preview
Bordeaux over 23.5 (was hoping for around 19.5)
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Oyo/Che at 5/1
Lions and Sharks games will get a good look in the morning
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I expect home side to have a crack tonight, much changed team but still a bit of experience in there. Stormers backline should also have some space.
Pitch is 4G and dry/cold night.
Over 42.5 @ 10/11
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southpaw wrote: Stade v Storrmers -
I expect home side to have a crack tonight, much changed team but still a bit of experience in there. Stormers backline should also have some space.
Pitch is 4G and dry/cold night.
Over 42.5 @ 10/11
Strongly agree on this one, will be cold but low humidity and synthetic pitch. SF backline is pretty young but not the rest of the lineup nor the bench.
I expected this line to open around 47.5-48.5 so yeah value there on the overs.
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There will be strong wind but humidity low and synthetic pitch and most important, Lou lineup is shit. I hope Saracens bounce back in fashion against a depleted side.
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Leinster attack is poor compared to previous years, cold day in Leicester today and a decent Leicester defence
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Racing over 43.5 @ 17/20
Expecting a home crowd pleaser effort from them.
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I thought red card was going the fuck our bet.
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Trying to decide if to follow Pablo on Sarries overs or hold until some of the challenge cup matches tomorrow for points.
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SirDesChamps00 wrote: Pablo mate ya having a nightmare on these French teams this weekend, Castres last night now Lyon
Finally I didnt bet on Castres, only the unders so some benefit there. Worse is that I was on Cheetahs and Oyo sneaked it in the 87th minute ...
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Pablo wrote: No comment on Saracens apart from they are a shitty side. Losing against a well depleted side that count almost every away match this season as heavy loss (40-10 in Pau, 45-0 in Toulouse, 46-10 in Bordeaux, 38-20 in Oyonnax, 35-14 in La Rochelle)
Fully agree. Think Farrell is absolutely useless
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Pablo wrote: I have to take Saracens o38.5 @1.80 2u
There will be strong wind but humidity low and synthetic pitch and most important, Lou lineup is shit. I hope Saracens bounce back in fashion against a depleted side.
Rugby gods in my side.
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Pablo wrote:
Pablo wrote: I have to take Saracens o38.5 @1.80 2u
There will be strong wind but humidity low and synthetic pitch and most important, Lou lineup is shit. I hope Saracens bounce back in fashion against a depleted side.
Rugby gods in my side.
Pablo take a bow, you deserved that one!! Top stuff.
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Weather will be awful by kickoff time, synthetic pith I know but heavy rain and strong wind suggest me that should be a scrappy match. Dragons back row with two fetchers I expect them to be on point in defence.
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