Super Rugby Week 3, Pro 14 + other rugby
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I imagine the likes of WSB may be out with handicaps but I have not looked and here are my projections
Blu -3.5 v Chi
Red -2.5 v Bru
Sun +17.5 v Reb
Cru -14.5 v Sto
Sha -7.5 v Tahs
Bul +5.5 v Lio
Jag +12.5 v Hur
There is no 6 Nations this weekend.
Looking forward to some educated thoughts on all the weekends rugby, let's hit them hard
PS Will open a separate thread for the Las Vegas 7's
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Wits +27.5 shud bring home the bacon today
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Brumbies win or any plus. I will be opposing reds all season. Higginbottom banned for 3 weeks as well.
Sunwolves on biggest plus. Will get better the more they play together.
Canes to bounce back and get a big win in Argentina, best minus.
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Brent Graham wrote: Another full house of Super Rugby fixtures to look forward to. Overall very quiet start for me due to loads of kids sport and likely to be similar next week.
I imagine the likes of WSB may be out with handicaps but I have not looked and here are my projections
Blu -3.5 v Chi
Red -2.5 v Bru
Sun +17.5 v Reb
Cru -14.5 v Sto
Sha -7.5 v Tahs
Bul +5.5 v Lio
Jag +12.5 v Hur
Blues, Brumbies, Crusaders and Hurricanes for me on the above projected handicaps.
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Blu +0.5 v Chi
Red +4.5 v Bru
Sun +7.5 v Reb
Cru -16.5 v Sto
Sha -5.5 v Tahs
Bul +10.5 v Lio
Jag +13.5 v Hur
Love the Sharks minus cap.
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takethegap wrote: Betxchange out with caps:
Blu +0.5 v Chi
Red +4.5 v Bru
Sun +7.5 v Reb
Cru -16.5 v Sto
Sha -5.5 v Tahs
Bul +10.5 v Lio
Jag +13.5 v Hur
Love the Sharks minus cap.
Blues, Brumbies, Rebels, Crusaders, Sharks, Bulls and Hurricanes for me.
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Then also a big bet on Crusaders, Sharks and Hurricanes win trebble at 1.97/1
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Brumbies
Rebels
Crusaders
Sharks
Lions
Canes
All to win @ just under 10/1
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The Missing Link wrote: Betx and GG out with caps. I'm within 3 points with all the caps I made except for the Bulls Lions game, I made that a choice game. Hammering Bulls +10.5, don't know where they've got that one from.
fyi Bulls +10.5 is the widely available line in UK and in Aus and NZ so SA books probably following their lead.
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Bulls +10 & Rebels -7
I have priced these games as +2 & -15 respectively.
I actually believe the bulls might win outright this weekend. The score in lions game flattered them.
Rebels were extremely clinical and like them to cover the 7 points.
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The Missing Link wrote: Betx and GG out with caps. I'm within 3 points with all the caps I made except for the Bulls Lions game, I made that a choice game. Hammering Bulls +10.5, don't know where they've got that one from.
fyi Bulls +10.5 is the widely available line in UK and in Aus and NZ so SA books probably following their lead.
Blind leading the blind then. Going to be a hell of a lot more people at Loftus for the game and coaching will make all the difference. Bulls for me have a better team on paper and with Mitchell drilling them, they will show their class this season. People forget what an average squad Ackerman turned into world beaters at the Lions and I think Mitchell has been given more to work with at the Bulls than Ackerman had to start with.The have a superior backline with Pollard at 10 and I think they have some quality young forwards that just needed to get taught how pass every now and then. Last time I see myself getting a double digit handicap at Loftus this season.
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Sackman wrote: Christmas sale now on Betxchange:
Bulls +10 & Rebels -7
I have priced these games as +2 & -15 respectively.
I actually believe the bulls might win outright this weekend. The score in lions game flattered them.
Rebels were extremely clinical and like them to cover the 7 points.
I fancied the Rebels strongly before this past weekend, but for me they were poor. That says a lot about the Reds. Take Jamie Josephs on at your own peril. I was hoping for a double digit plus on the Wolves
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Chiefs have injury problems, Tim Nanai-Williams is out for the season. Charlie Ngatai and Dominic Bird out for a couple of weeks at least.
Plus 3 others going through concussion protocols.
Don't think they have the depth in the squad to cover these losses. Think this is a great bet despite the shortcomings in the Blues pack.
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Kings+6 v Dragons
Edinburgh +2 v Munster
Ulster -1 v Glasgow
Cardiff -13 v Treviso
Scarlets -3 v Leinster
Zebre +4 v Ospreys
Cheetahs -10 v Connacht
Just an aside, the temperature in Europe is set to plummet in the next few days and is expected to last till Friday so there could be a few cancelled or at the very least postponed games. It may affect teams traveling to other countries so that's just something to be aware of. Anytime rugby is played in extreme weather I always think the home team will benefit more from the conditions as it's an extra doubt in the minds of the away team. The handicaps will be very interesting this week.
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Blues evens to win my first main strike for this weekend.
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Brad Breath wrote: Have jumped on Blues +1
Chiefs have injury problems, Tim Nanai-Williams is out for the season. Charlie Ngatai and Dominic Bird out for a couple of weeks at least.
Plus 3 others going through concussion protocols.
Don't think they have the depth in the squad to cover these losses. Think this is a great bet despite the shortcomings in the Blues pack.
yeah great info
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The Missing Link wrote: Betx and GG out with caps. I'm within 3 points with all the caps I made except for the Bulls Lions game, I made that a choice game. Hammering Bulls +10.5, don't know where they've got that one from.
fyi Bulls +10.5 is the widely available line in UK and in Aus and NZ so SA books probably following their lead.
Blind leading the blind then. Going to be a hell of a lot more people at Loftus for the game and coaching will make all the difference. Bulls for me have a better team on paper and with Mitchell drilling them, they will show their class this season. People forget what an average squad Ackerman turned into world beaters at the Lions and I think Mitchell has been given more to work with at the Bulls than Ackerman had to start with.The have a superior backline with Pollard at 10 and I think they have some quality young forwards that just needed to get taught how pass every now and then. Last time I see myself getting a double digit handicap at Loftus this season.
For sure the Bulls +10.5 looks a value punt and i'm also leaning with it. But Bulls better team on paper? Take the 15 that started for each side last week, put them next to each other, and have a good run through & compare. It simply doesn't stack up.
But if you're saying better coached on paper this year, then i think i hear you. Early days but Mitchell probably the guy who can get the most out of a side over this long distance tournament compared to de Bruin, and his knowledge of game abroad a big plus for trip down under.
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my thoughts on the weekend are
Blues to beat the chiefs, looking at taking -6.5 here for a great price.
Sunwolves total tries looking at what i can get for over here, surely they will score over 3 tries.
Bulls +10.5 is looking good for me.
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southpaw wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
southpaw wrote:
The Missing Link wrote: Betx and GG out with caps. I'm within 3 points with all the caps I made except for the Bulls Lions game, I made that a choice game. Hammering Bulls +10.5, don't know where they've got that one from.
fyi Bulls +10.5 is the widely available line in UK and in Aus and NZ so SA books probably following their lead.
Blind leading the blind then. Going to be a hell of a lot more people at Loftus for the game and coaching will make all the difference. Bulls for me have a better team on paper and with Mitchell drilling them, they will show their class this season. People forget what an average squad Ackerman turned into world beaters at the Lions and I think Mitchell has been given more to work with at the Bulls than Ackerman had to start with.The have a superior backline with Pollard at 10 and I think they have some quality young forwards that just needed to get taught how pass every now and then. Last time I see myself getting a double digit handicap at Loftus this season.
For sure the Bulls +10.5 looks a value punt and i'm also leaning with it. But Bulls better team on paper? Take the 15 that started for each side last week, put them next to each other, and have a good run through & compare. It simply doesn't stack up.
But if you're saying better coached on paper this year, then i think i hear you. Early days but Mitchell probably the guy who can get the most out of a side over this long distance tournament compared to de Bruin, and his knowledge of game abroad a big plus for trip down under.
Matter of opinion I guess. I believe a lot of the Lions players only archived as much as they did thanks to Ackermans coaching. For me players like Elton, Mapoe, Coetzee and Skosan are very overrated and were just at the right place at the right time. They are not international quality and I can see all their places being taken in the national team by youngsters from the Sharks and Bulls who will receive better coaching this year.
My combined team would be:
1. Pierre Schoeman
2. Malcolm Marx
3. Frans van Wyk
4. RG Snyman
5. Franco Mostert (left out Lood but wouldn't mind any 2 of these 3 locks)
6. Kwagga Smith
7. Hanro Liebenberg
8. Warren Whiteley
9. Ross Cronje
10. Handre Pollard
11. John-Ben Kotze
12. Harold Vorster
13. Jesse Kriel
14. Sylvian Mahuza/Aphiwe Dyantyi
15. Warrick Gelant(if fit)
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Bulls v Lions preview
5 units (1 to 10 scale), Bulls +10.5 points 9/10 WSB
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Agree on the Brumbies Hanrick, think Reds are in for a long season!
The Bulls are +11.5 at 8/10 SportingBet and that is a cracker. Not sure of Mostert at 7, Kwagga big loss and Ruan Dreyer is the worst at scrum time. Geez that oke is frustrating to watch!
Bulls tails are up after that massive opening win and a double digit dog off the back of a win against the tournament favourites ... too golden!
Then fancy the half time handicap in the Saders v Stormers match. Think the Saders come out firing!
Main bet is the Sharks -5 against the Tahs. The Tahs faced the Sharks in round 3 last year and got drilled 37-14. Tahs were lucky to get the win against the Stormers while the Sharks will want to get a much needed win. Tahs last 10 away matches in Superugby have only seen 3 Tahs wins against the Reds, Rebels and Sunwolves. Sharks -5 GOLDEN!
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Cheetahs -8.5 is a gift and Dragons -1.5 vs the Kings looks too easy
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Blues v Chiefs
3 units Blues to win Blues evens BetXchange
Reds v Brumbies
3 units Brumbies -5.5 points evens BetXchange
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Taken Brumbies -4.5 as posted earlier in week, i will oppose Reds all season until they prove me wrong.
Sharks last 2 home games against Tah's both comfortable wins, hoping for an open game and a strike on Sharks points overs if conditions good. For now will take the minus.
of the rest i think Saders could put some pain on the Stormers if get on top early, but possibly Stormers on best +HT cap and Saders on best 2nd half minus cap.
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mackem wrote: Friday's previews, treading very carefully, they both look a bit trappy to me.
Blues v Chiefs
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Reds v Brumbies
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Crusaders -16/Sharks -5 double @ 2.65/1.
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shergar86 wrote: The handicaps aren't out for the Pro 14 games but here would be my expectations;
Kings+6 v Dragons
Edinburgh +2 v Munster
Ulster -1 v Glasgow
Cardiff -13 v Treviso
Scarlets -3 v Leinster
Zebre +4 v Ospreys
Cheetahs -10 v Connacht
Just an aside, the temperature in Europe is set to plummet in the next few days and is expected to last till Friday so there could be a few cancelled or at the very least postponed games. It may affect teams traveling to other countries so that's just something to be aware of. Anytime rugby is played in extreme weather I always think the home team will benefit more from the conditions as it's an extra doubt in the minds of the away team. The handicaps will be very interesting this week.
Ulster v Glasgow game postponed so far
www.planetrugby.com/news/ulster-glasgow-match-postponed/
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Cettas wrote: Ulster v Glasgow game postponed so far
www.planetrugby.com/news/ulster-glasgow-match-postponed/
On that topic, it s been snowing heavily in the UK for the past 3 days and temperature are below 0.
Forecast is still showing snow for today and tomorrow so not sure how many games will be played tbh.
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Sharks should still cover the -5.5 but I am not as bullish and have taken some cover on the Tahs +8.5
Sharks – 15 Lwazi Mvovo, 14 Kobus van Wyk, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 André Esterhuizen, 11 Sbu Nkosi, 10 Rob du Preez, 9 Louis Schreuder, 8 Keegan Daniel, 7 Tyler Paul, 6 Jacques Vermeulen, 5 Stephan Lewies, 4 Ruan Botha (c), 3 Thomas du Toit, 2 Franco Marais, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Akker van der Merwe, 17 Juan Schoeman, 18 John-Hubert Meyer, 19 Hyron Andrews, 20 Tera Mtembu, 21 Cameron Wright, 22 Marius Louw, 23 Curwin Bosch.
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bradie82 wrote:
Cettas wrote: Ulster v Glasgow game postponed so far
www.planetrugby.com/news/ulster-glasgow-match-postponed/
On that topic, it s been snowing heavily in the UK for the past 3 days and temperature are below 0.
Forecast is still showing snow for today and tomorrow so not sure how many games will be played tbh.
Edinburgh Munster game now called off!!!
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shergar86 wrote:
bradie82 wrote:
Cettas wrote: Ulster v Glasgow game postponed so far
www.planetrugby.com/news/ulster-glasgow-match-postponed/
On that topic, it s been snowing heavily in the UK for the past 3 days and temperature are below 0.
Forecast is still showing snow for today and tomorrow so not sure how many games will be played tbh.
Edinburgh Munster game now called off!!!
Cardiff v Treviso off as well
Maybe not a bad thing having a few games less available this weekend
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southpaw wrote: no Mapimpi for Sharks. On paper Tah's better backline, Sharks better pack. Sharks marginally better bench.
you scared me last time when you said the one bulls player was missing.... not this time lol Sharks win -6.5
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Stoossy wrote:
southpaw wrote: no Mapimpi for Sharks. On paper Tah's better backline, Sharks better pack. Sharks marginally better bench.
you scared me last time when you said the one bulls player was missing.... not this time lol Sharks win -6.5
I'm already on Sharks -5.5, was merely sharing above team news which was a surprise to hear Mapimpi rested....
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Forecast should be fine (risk of rain but most website it should not rain from 11am) so going with few over
Over 5.5 tries @ 1.60
Over 2.5 HT @ 1.80
Blues over 3.5 @ 2.25
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