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4 years 11 months ago #1 by Brent Graham
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GGGaming will price up live on our Handicap Projection show this morning at 11h45 - Coil and I will be sharing our handicaps and Gary will be offering some specials including holding their opening caps for a period of time


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4 years 11 months ago #2 by Brent Graham
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Here is a summary of my caps with Coils to the right and GGG in brackets - have also added Dave from Aus to the right of mine in brackets

Blues -11.5 (-6.5) v Bulls -10.5 (-10.5)
Rebels -4.5 (-6.5) v Waratahs -1.5 (-4.5)
Sunwolves +18.5 (+10.5) v Brumbies +21.5 (+17.5)
Chiefs +9.5 (9.5) v Crusaders +9.5 (+10.5)
Reds +3.5 (+3.5) v Jaguares +2.5 (+5.5)
Sharks -3.5 (+2.5) v Hurricanes -5.5 (13/10)
Lions -2.5 (-4.5) v Stormers -2.5 (12/10 Stormers)

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4 years 11 months ago #3 by BookieDave
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Will be interesting to see what the market starts on some of these...could be some big overreacting to last weeks results in my opinion... bulls and sunwolves (shows by my lines haha)..weeks like these can be rocks or diamonds.. hoping there is a bit of regression on last weeks poor performances

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4 years 11 months ago #4 by CLrugby
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Does someone know if Waratahs will rest their Wallabies players? They had to do it already last week and got an exception from their federation but some of their key players have played way too much already and are risking injuries. If they rotate it could be big for Rebels

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4 years 11 months ago #5 by BookieDave
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Sportsbet/NZTAB/Paddy Power coming out with lines right now....

Blues $1.37 -7.5 $1.90
Bulls $3.14 +7.5 $1.90

Rebels $1.56 -4.5 $1.90
Waratahs $2.44 +4.5 $1.90

Sunwolves $4.95 +13.5 $1.90 --- They must be 8 beers deep also Gary :P
Brumbies $1.18 -13.5 $1.90
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4 years 11 months ago #6 by BookieDave
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Chiefs $4.00 +10.5 $1.90
Crusaders $1.25 -10.5 $1.90

Reds $2.47 +3.5 $1.90
Jaguares $1.55 -3.5 $1.90

Sharks $2.33 +2.5 $1.90
Hurricanes $1.61 -2.5 $1.90

Lions $1.60 -3.5 $1.90
Stormers $2.36 +3.5 $190

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4 years 11 months ago #7 by BookieDave
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They have to rest really soon, ideally it would be in the last round v Highlanders....but that might be too late. So it comes down to resting v Rebels or Brumbies....If I were them I would rest v Brumbies....at least they are at home.

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4 years 11 months ago #8 by threepeat
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quote "BookieDave" post Sportsbet/NZTAB/Paddy Power coming out with lines right now....


"Sunwolves $4.95 +13.5 $1.90 --- They must be 8 beers deep also Gary :P
Brumbies $1.18 -13.5 $1.90"

All over the "8 beers deep"

Wolves in disarray and Brumbies in the hunt for Aussie Conference.

Max bet on Horses to run rampant. Under two converted tries too good an offer. Betting max Brumbies -13.5 @ $1.90
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4 years 11 months ago #9 by Brent Graham
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Thanks Dave - I haven't checked to see if any of our other books have followed but the Blues -7.5 and Brumbies -13.5 standouts for me

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4 years 11 months ago #10 by mackem
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Many thanks to Couch Critic for this week's edition of Post Match Scuffle ..The Maestro, the Wizard and the Mathematician


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4 years 11 months ago #11 by BookieDave
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Hahah nice...

Yeah, its probably one to wait for teams...

For me, the Brumbies are a 3 point better team than the Rebels. The line started +5.5 last week after a stack of cash for the Sunwolves, in hindsight the line was wrong..but the line cant got from +5.5 v Rebels to +18.5 (or something like that) based on 1 result. When the Brumbies played them in R13 the line closed -18.5 and that was in Canberra. I cant see how this could be anything above 18 mathematically..Just seems like an overreaction...In saying that, im not sure I can back them this way...so I may have just contradicted myself :oops:
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4 years 11 months ago #12 by BookieDave
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Do you allow Australians to set up accounts :)

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4 years 11 months ago #13 by Overs_Punter
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Blues -6.5 @ 5/6. Fire!

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4 years 11 months ago #14 by CLrugby
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I am going to be simple this week, Blues + Rebels look to me like a good combo, Must win for the Blues that need 5 points on that one and Waratahs will have to rest players or will come out of gas on that one. Big one for the Rebels this is the turning point of their season.

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4 years 11 months ago #15 by CLrugby
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Looks as well that Stormers will have injury problems with both Hookers out (Not even sure who is their 3rd choice). Kolisi is going to a scan today if out then the Lions will look good to bank.

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4 years 11 months ago #16 by ThoughtsOnSports
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Rebels -4.5 is my best bet of the weekend. Tahs effectively out of play offs and will have to rest players. Rebels on a high looking for 5 points in race for Aussie conference.

Also taking Rebels -10.5

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4 years 11 months ago - 4 years 11 months ago #17 by threepeat
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Breaking news from Chiefs camp is that Big Bad Brodie will not be back from injury, AB Nathan Harris also out with injury.

Time to bet Crusaders on the line, currently -11.5 TAB NZ

Sader team not yet named but only player that Saders cannot replace from depth is Richie Mo'unga. Will take that risk.

BET MAX CRUSADERS - 11.5

Good morning Brent, (continental breakfast in Auckland this morning ;- ) )

Thought you would be interested to know that we think Fiji is our home game and there is no home field advantage.

Crowd will be 20,000 and way hotter than last weeks grind in Christchurch.

Savu Reece is the latest Crusader / Fijian star winger to travel home.

Interestingly he was not named in the Fiji world cup squad, which can only mean he is in the AB frame.

Reece is from Queen Victoria School (arguably the rugby school in Fiji) Tailevu, and will be very well supported.
We also have Manasa Mataele on the roster but he had a season ending knee injury.
Chiefs have Fijian Sowakula at #8.

Last time we played in Fiji was 2017 and it was 31-24, a margin of 7. I am adding 5 for no Retallick. 5 more for Razor v Cooper = Saders by 17+. Richie starts Bonus!

PS: We have direct flights from Christchurch to Fiji. You cannot get that in cow country!

GO CRUSADERS!
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4 years 11 months ago #18 by mackem
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Blues v Bulls preview

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2 units, Blues win by 1-12 points, 17/10 BetXchange

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4 years 11 months ago #19 by mackem
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Rebels v Waratahs preview

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2 units, Either team to win by 7 or less points including the draw, 6/4 at Sunbet

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4 years 11 months ago #20 by CLrugby
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Rebels – 15 Dane Haylett-Petty (c), 14 Jack Maddocks, 13 Reece Hodge, 12 Matt To’omua, 11 Marika Koroibete, 10 Quade Cooper, 9 Will Genia, 8 Isi Naisarani, 7 Richard Hardwick, 6 Luke Jones, 5 Adam Coleman, 4 Matt Philip, 3 Jermaine Ainsley, 2 Anaru Rangi, 1 Tetera Faulkner.
Subs: 16 Hugh Roach, 17 Matt Gibbon, 18 Sam Talakai, 19 Ross Haylett-Petty, 20 Angus Cottrell, 21 Michael Ruru, 22 Billy Meakes, 23 Tom Englis

This is their best squad so far this season, Genia who was supposed to be out has recovered, starting XV is top quality and the bench will have a significant impact. Rebels all the way!

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4 years 11 months ago #21 by southpaw
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have to agree with Rebels, much more to play for. Also like Saders and 3peat view re Fiji a valid one, no advantage for Chiefs who had a hard game against Reds last week and looked knackered after massive tackle count.

Rebels/Rebels HT/FT @ 10/11

Saders -11.5 @ 5/6

and also taking the double.

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4 years 11 months ago #22 by bradie82
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Three games this week end for the Top 14 – 2 quarter finals and the relegation match between Brive and Grenoble.

Racing vs La Rochelle : First of all the game won’t be played in the Arena but in the old Yves-du-Manoir stadium which makes a huge difference., especially on a Friday night. The handicap is set at 10.5 point which I find quite high at this stage but will wait for final starting line. Zebo and Thomas should be back for this game. Under could be the

Lyon vs Montpellier: game will be played Saturday afternoon and the handicap is set at 3.5. While Lyon rested all their key players last week end in Grenoble, Montpellier managed to get a win in Clermont and get qualified thanks to Toulon beating Castres, which is quite an achievement looking at where they were 2 months ago. (I took some MHR to win the top14 @ 41 at that time). Montpellier will be without Picamoles and probably Ouedraogo. I think Lyon should win that game and reach the semi final as they have been impressive this season at home.

Brive vs Grenoble : quite complicated. Brive lost their first chance to reach top14 last week end against Bayonne with a penalty scored at 81”. French Bookies are giving a 3.5 handicap in favour of Brive as they will be playing home and the only bet I would take, if available, is the over penalties scored. 11 were scored last week end in the Brive vs Bayonne game and with Germain probably playing for Grenoble, this would be the best move I reckon.

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4 years 11 months ago #23 by Greedyfly
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Hi Guys..

I'm sitting on a decent sized 11/1 ticket for Sharks to win the SA conference. It seems as though the Jaguars are set to take it but I'm curious if anyone else is in this position and possible options of at least getting something out of it?

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4 years 11 months ago #24 by hanrick
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Greedyfly wrote: Hi Guys..

I'm sitting on a decent sized 11/1 ticket for Sharks to win the SA conference. It seems as though the Jaguars are set to take it but I'm curious if anyone else is in this position and possible options of at least getting something out of it?


Also on a decent sized bet at 12/1 in that, but have written it off. Can't see a way of really getting anything out of it.

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4 years 11 months ago #25 by mackem
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Chiefs v Crusaders preview

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Thanks to threepeat, I agree with Saders minus. There is -10.5 at WSB right now, most books are 12.5.

I'll rate it 3 of 5 units in case humidity in Suva a factor and to a lesser extent, any sort of win will do for Saders.

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4 years 11 months ago - 4 years 11 months ago #26 by BookieDave
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Hey Greedy,

Yeah its basically the Jags to lose, The only way the sharks can win is if Jags lose v Reds and then the sharks beat them in BA....Here are my 100% prices if it helps!

SOUTH AFRICA CONFERENCE
TEAMS WIN
Jaguares $1.13
Sharks $19.76
Stormers $40.49
Bulls $42.56
Lions $79.37
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4 years 11 months ago #27 by BookieDave
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My Updated lines after teams.

Blues -7.5 (From -6.5)
Rebels -7.0 (From -6.5) - I really want to be on the Rebels, its their best side ever. However the prices are correct :( so no bet for me.
Sunwolves +13.0 (From (+10.0) - No Mafi is huge and with out a couple of key players. Brubmies playing full strength. No bet ATM
Chiefs +9.5 (No Change)

Good luck!

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4 years 11 months ago #28 by hanrick
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Have fired into the Brumbies -13.5 at 17/20. Have eyed it the whole week, but expected Brumbies to rest players, so have held fire. Brumbies at full strenght and expect them to target a bonuspoint win. Brumbies defence will make it tough for Sunwolves to score points.

See the handicap is 16.5 in places

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4 years 11 months ago #29 by mackem
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On it Hanrick, shot mate, there is even money for Brumbies -14.5 at Sunbet, I also thought the bonus point would be a big enough carrot to cover this but only going 2 units as my record in calling Sunwolves matches this season is poor.

Sunwolves v Brumbies preview

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4 years 11 months ago #30 by mackem
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Brent Graham is joined by a panel of sports betting experts to look at the weekends rugby from a betting angle. The show airs every Thursday night at 21h00 and Super Rugby is currently our main focus





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4 years 11 months ago #31 by Brad Breath
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With you 100% on the Brumbies

With the advantage they'll have at set piece, can't see the Wolves staying within 25 points

My early play this week was a double, Blues -7 into Brumbies -13

Have just emptied an account on Brumbies -13, as I'm half expecting the Blues to let me down lol

Have also got some Rebels -4 @ 1.85
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4 years 11 months ago #32 by mackem
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Reds v Jaguares preview


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See it being close but a sneaky feeling for the Reds so covering bulk of stake as follows.

2 units Reds win by 1-12 points at 5/2
1 unit Jaguares win by 1-12 points at 18/10

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4 years 11 months ago #33 by mackem
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Sharks v Hurricanes preview

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Bet: 2 units, Sharks to win, 13/10 BetXchange, Betway

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4 years 11 months ago #34 by mackem
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Couch Critic's Round 16 preview with best bets and specials for every match

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4 years 11 months ago #35 by mackem
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Lions v Stormers preview

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2 units Stomers +4.5 points 9/10 at GG Gaming.

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4 years 11 months ago #36 by coil
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Honda took lads ,

My fancies below ..

The Blues vs Bulls , two teams that potentially can lose you money in almost any manner !!!!

Two of the dumbest sides in Super rugby , but I'll admit they have improved the IQ levels even though there is a lot of room for more !!

From what we've seen the Blues should cover this cap , but I won't be going in all guns blazing , will look to go unders on the Bulls points possibly as well.

Ah man , the next one could be a ball breaker , not a fan of either side but really think the Waratahs are one of my better bets of the weekend. There is plus 6.5 around and hoping for a little better come game time.

Don't rate either coach but i do agree that Darryl Gibson is a shocker of note .

Saturday I'm working all day grrrr ..

I'm all over the Brumbies again this weekend , the cap is sliding out again and I concur with Hanrick that the Wolves could battle to score points again . The Brumbies really should cover the 14 cap ok .

The chiefs crusaders both make a few changes , chiefs will battle against the Crusaders of course but I do feel the cap is reasonably priced , if anything I'd lean towards the crusaders on the minus but for smalls.

The Jags have been very good this season and they find themselves favourites this weekend.

The Jags have been superb on the road and will fancy another win.
Can't quite get a good feel here , maybe and unders call , but pepper is the ref, wouldn't mind a bet on a bigger plus on reds in running ...

On the sharks again this weekend , Canes named a strong side but think Sharks should be favourites , so the outright for me and possibly unders again with uncle nic berry in charge.

The Lions played better than expected last weekend , difficult one , but I will lean towards the stormers !!
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4 years 11 months ago #37 by Brad Breath
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Have taken some under 53 total points in Blues v Bulls at evens. (With William Hill for those who can get on there).

Line is 48.5 or 49.5 with other books that have opened.

Most forecasts showing it will be wet, but there will be certainly be a fairly strong westerly wind.
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4 years 11 months ago #38 by bradie82
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Brad Breath wrote: Have taken some under 53 total points in Blues v Bulls at evens. (With William Hill for those who can get on there).

Line is 48.5 or 49.5 with other books that have opened.

Most forecasts showing it will be wet, but there will be certainly be a fairly strong westerly wind.

Thanks Brad for spotting this - following you on that one

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4 years 11 months ago #39 by BookieDave
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Yeah I really want to be on the Brumbies too... but my numbers spit out close to the line :(
Will be cheering you boys home!

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4 years 11 months ago #40 by BookieDave
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***Two of the dumbest sides in Super rugby , but I'll admit they have improved the IQ levels even though there is a lot of room for more !!**

Haha love it

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4 years 11 months ago #41 by BookieDave
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*Updated after teams*

Reds +0.5 (From +3.5) - love the Reds in this spot, Key midfielders coming back and I prefer McGahan at #10. No Miotti and Boffelli for the Jags...hence my 3 point move.
Sharks +3.5 (From +2.5) Moved a point based on Conformation BB is back, also having coles on the bench helps. No bets
Lions -5.5 (From -4.5) Like the Lions here, but a lot of public support for Stormers so will probably wait until kick off to back Lions. Yes, No Jantjies does hurt, especially because Reynolds is a spoon. I cant look past the key outs for the Stormers...Van Dyk, Kolisi and PSDT..Eben coming back in helps, but is he fully fit? I have been against the Lions all year, but like them in this spot...

Good luck fellas!

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4 years 11 months ago #42 by hanrick
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Blues to win and under 50.5 match points onto Rebels to win and under 50.5 points at 9/2

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4 years 11 months ago #43 by threepeat
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Have followed GFTG panel 5 game ACCA in the newsletter. I like the way Brent has tweeked the lines.

Cannot bet against Hurricanes, so have substituted Jags @1.62 to win. Result is a very similar 11-1 ACCA (Multi).

Good luck to everyone.

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4 years 11 months ago #44 by southpaw
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hanrick wrote: Blues to win and under 50.5 match points onto Rebels to win and under 50.5 points at 9/2


really like the first part of this bet given total pts like now down to 41.5 in places, raining quite a bit.

taken Blues win & under 50.5 pts @ 5/6

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4 years 11 months ago #45 by BookieDave
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What drunk bookie opens these totals!

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4 years 11 months ago #46 by coil
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man alive , if there is one bookie i cannot beat it's hollywood , total points 45.5 ..i deposit ... it goes 43.5 ... i still bet .... result 44 ... sick as a dog .

next one i'm swimming against the tide , waratahs i'm all in

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4 years 11 months ago - 4 years 11 months ago #47 by BookieDave
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ohh thats horrible coil!
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4 years 11 months ago - 4 years 11 months ago #48 by southpaw
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Blues don't have a kicker, fullstop. The current 2 x 10's are just poor ITM players at best. They badly need Perofeta to be injury free next season, he walks into side if fit.

Rebels/Rebels ht/ft 10/11 from earlier in week in next to bounce back.

added Naisarani 20/1 1st try
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4 years 11 months ago #49 by BookieDave
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Late bet on Rebels -5 ...big money for Tahs over here.

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4 years 11 months ago #50 by BookieDave
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Yes, and there were poor before the match too...Massive overreaction to the Bulls performance last week.

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