Cape Town 7's, Champions Cup, Challenge Cup 12-15 Dec
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Tread carefully in Europe where there the group stages of the Champions Cup comes to an end
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BB 1/1
NZ 28/10
Fiji 33/10
Eng 14/1
Aus 22/1
USA 33/1
Fra 50/1
Arg 80/1
Samoa 100/1
With pool A being the pool of death, the value definitely lies therein as if any of the teams make it out the pool, they won't meet each other again until the final.
In saying that, the BB are very short at 1/1 so I won't be touching them pre tournament (although I got on bet.co.za black friday bet boost of BB to win ct 7s at 6/1). Whoever tops pool A has a cruise to the final, thus it's tough to look past Fiji and it's almost rude not to think about USA at 33/1.
NZ are a good shout at 28/10 but are destined to meet whoever comes 2nd in pool A in the semis.
The big value probably lies in France or England. Whoever tops that pool should make it through to the semis. England have a knack of beating the BB too.
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LiveLovePunt wrote: The big value probably lies in France or England. Whoever tops that pool should make it through to the semis. England have a knack of beating the BB too.
Thanks LLP. Not a student of 7's but seem to recall the BB's record in Cape Town has generally seen a spike in tissue sales so will take
England @ 14/1
and look to cover at the pointy end.
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Harlequins v Ulster (choice)
Racing 92 -30 v Ospreys
Connacht -3 v Gloucester
Benetton +3 v Lyon
Montpellier +1 v Toulouse
Saracens -11 v Munster
Leinster -19 v Northampton
Glasgow -19 v La Rochelle
Exeter -16 v Sale
Clermont -21 v Bath
Took Exeter -13 yesterday when BF opened and I see its -18 with some books.
Other than that I think most caps are well set (pre team news being available anyway).
Brent's advice to tread carefully is perhaps very sound......
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early CT 7s R1 plays:
Arg -4.5 v Canada @0.75 (esbn)
Samoa v Kenya over 35.5 points @0.8 (bet coza)
France -11.5 v Spain @0.8 (bet365)
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Pool A
SA 1.55
Fij 2.85
US 11
Jap 151
Pool B
NZ 1.15
Arg 5.5
Can 34
Wal 51
Pool C
Eng 1.35
Fra 3.5
Sco 29
Spa 34
Pool D
Aus 1.65
Sam 2.75
Ken 10
Ire 34
I like the Australia outright on the pool stage but the fact that they lost agains Sanoa in quarter final last week end tends to stop me for the time being
First round odds
Aus -11.5 vs Ire - 39.5
Sam -4.5 vs Ken - 35.5
Fra -11.5 vs Spa - 37.5
Eng -14.5 vs Sco - 38.5
Arg -4.5 vs Can - 37.5
NZ -25.5 vs Wal - 39.5
Fiji -8.5 vs USA - 37.5
SA -30.5 vs Jap - 39.5
I also like the Arg -4.5
@LiveLovePunt : between France and England I would rather go with England – the fact that Terry Bouhraoua is out is a huge blow for the French side
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Expecting La Rochelle to be understrength, shift their focus to Top14 games. Glasgow will want a 5 pointer. Am all over them.
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Argentina went 4-0 ATS in Dubai and think they will cover this spread against the Canooks.
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$4.60 Fiji-I think the'll be looking to bounce back (just like they did last year when they failed to make the semis in Dubai and then won Cape Town). The new format meant that Fiji had to only play four games in Dubai versus six for New Zealand, South Africa, England and Samoa. Fatigue often plays a factor in back up legs.
France women I took at $12-they offer the best value IMO. Only had to play four games last weekend while the top four teams all had to play six, and with their upset win over New Zealand last week, they demonstrated that they have what it takes to beat the best. The women have never played a back-to-back tournament before, so this will likely be even more trying for the women than the men.
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CT 7s is generally a high scoring one, however there are a few notably high points lines:
Fra v Spain 41.5 points - this game hasn't gone over 41.5 in the last 12 H2Hs
Eng v Sco 44.5 points - this game has only gone over 44.5 in 1/8 last H2Hs
NZ v wales 44.5 points - this game hasn't gone over 44.5 in the last 9 H2Hs
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Took some under on the France and England game
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I figure Sarries eye will be on their Bristol game next week and Munster want it more, and Toulouse up for it too.
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SA know this group may come down to points difference. Further, Friday is a one-game-day and the BB will want to produce for the home fans.
SA -30.5 @0.8 at Interbet
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southpaw wrote: Fired Glasgow -18.5 @ 10/11 Sunbet.
Expecting La Rochelle to be understrength, shift their focus to Top14 games. Glasgow will want a 5 pointer. Am all over them.
It looks like O'Gara isn't going to do a full swap out based on press comments, i guess a different approach to usual French coach stance when gets to this stage. But will still keep this as a firm bet, even if i don't think cap will move out much (might even come in a pt or 2 depending on team).
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Connacht win @ 1.67
Benetton +2 @ 1.91
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Castres 33.5 v Enisei
S-line: 34
Bet minus
Brive 10.5 v Zebre
S-line: 12
Bet minus
Pau 1.5 v Cardiff
S-line: -2
Bet plus
Dragons v Worcester 3.5
S-line: 1
Bet plus
Bordeaux 27.5 v Agen
S-line: 34
Bet minus
Calvisano v Leicester 30.5
S-line: -35
Bet minus
London Irish v Toulon 3.5
S-line: 2
Bet plus
Wasps 6.5 v Edinburgh
S-line: -2
Bet plus
Scarlets 21.5 v Bayonne
S-line: 20
Bet plus
Stade Francais v Bristol 9.5
S-line: -17
Bet minus
Champions Cup Friday games (perf. 15/30=50%)
Racing 30.5 v Ospreys
S-line: 24
Bet plus
Harlequins v Ulster 3.5
S-line: -10
Bet minus
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mackem wrote: Massive thanks to RuggaBugga for his preview and picks for Matches 1-8 of the Cape Town 7s
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RB you LEGEND!
I believe you went 8/8 in your projected backing in today's fixtures.....Well played sir
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@oracle I hope you watched the BB kicking display - 7/7 and 5 of them from the corner (never doubt Geduld and specman!!)
Looking forward to tomorrow.
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Connacht 3.5 v Gloucester
S-line: 6
Bet minus
Benneton 1.5 v Lyon
S-line: -1
Bet plus
Montpellier v Toulouse 3.5
S-line: -11
Bet minus
Saracens 11.5 v Munster
S-line: 16
Bet minus
Leinster 24.5 v Northampton
S-line: 26
Bet minus
Glasgow 18.5 v La Rochelle
S-line: 15
Bet plus
Exeter 21.5 v Sale
S-line: 17
Bet plus
Clermont 25.5 v Bath
S-line: 22
Bet plus
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Aus -6.5 v Kenya (middle lined with Kenya +13.5 at Bwin)
France -8.5 v Scotland
USA -25.5 v Japan
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Kenya +13.5 (Sporting)
Samoa Ireland no bet
France -8.5
England (try take -16.5)
Argentina -17.5
New Zeal - no bet (wait for team news)
USA -26.5
Fiji +5.5
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RuggaBugga wrote: I wish I had an account that could bet more that R14.87 at SportingBet.
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Betway has Kenya +12 @ 1.83 and +14.5 @ 1.6 in case you have an account there
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All over it!!
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Forecast is good and the h2h in favour of a high scoring
Over 42.5 @ 1.72 on 888
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Aus -6.5 v samoa
scotland -11.5 v spain
arg +14.5 v NZ
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Arg v NZ under 40.5 points
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France win easy
Irish plus smalls
Nz minus beeeeg
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Gonna go against RB here - my gut says argies!
Then also small play on Ire +
Will look for scotland under points vs NZ
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France +13.5 @ hollywood
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(All previous bets also at evens)
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France +10.5 vs fiji at sportingbet @0.85
France outright at 4.5
Final:
NZ +7.5 @0.85 (gg gaming)
Already on SA to win tournament (odds of 7/1 placed on black friday )
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