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7 months 2 weeks ago #1 by Brent Graham
A poor weekend for me with newsletter bets Chile overs & Aussie minus losing and I also took a knock on Italy game

On the plus side Saturdays 6/1 acca arrived and Kwagga scored the last try - thanks Couch

Might to a video looking at group standings heading into the final round

Here are my projected handicaps with actual caps (where available) in brackets

New Zealand -65.5 (-67.5) v Uruguay

France -28.5 (-28.5) v Italy

Wales -14.5 (-20.5) v Georgia

England -24.5 (-18.5) v Samoa

Ireland -12.5 (-13.5) v Scotland

Japan +9.5 (+14.5) v Argentina

Tonga -42.5 v Romania

Fiji -18.5 v Portugal


I suspect I may be out with the 3 caps where there are big differences although do think money will come for Georgia at +20.5

Look forward to your thoughts

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7 months 2 weeks ago #2 by Brent Graham
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Tonga and Fiji caps are up

Tonga -42.5 (-35.5)v Romania

Fiji -18.5 (-28.5) v Portugal


Big differences but not the sort of games I am going to move in on

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7 months 2 weeks ago #3 by Chiefie
Looks like Am could be called up if Mapimpi is out for the rest of the tournament.

Getting the old gang back together!

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7 months 2 weeks ago #4 by Pablo
Portugal +28.5 @1.90 2u

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7 months 2 weeks ago #5 by shaft

Pablo wrote: Portugal +28.5 @1.90 2u


Agree on this

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7 months 2 weeks ago #6 by Laraxwell
Bad wkend for me. Punted against the Tier 2 nations as thought they'd run out of puff after early matches

Also like Portugal +28.5pts
Fiji only need a point and Os Lobos have been the find of the tournament for me

Also like England -18.5 v Samoa. Will wait for team selection as already Q'd England may rest a few and minus might reel back. Samoa have been awful and England have found some form
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7 months 2 weeks ago #7 by Pablo
Uruguay +68.5 ha @1.90 2u

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7 months 2 weeks ago #8 by southpaw
Reece-Zammit starts for Wales v Georgia. Morgan rested. Only 2 Welsh players on 2 tries.

LRZ available @ evens for Wales top tournament tryscrorer.

Feels solid given he's also a likely play-offs starter as well.
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7 months 2 weeks ago #9 by coil
Still spitting my dummy about after Australias lacklustre performance .

This week , Italy plus 27.5 is a first fancy .

Georgia plus 18.5 against Wales a small fancy .

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7 months 2 weeks ago - 7 months 2 weeks ago #10 by Kirky
How's my (conspiracy) theory:
Eddie's powerful (rugby sponsors) friends in Japan have agreed to make big donations to Fijian rugby programs.
In return Eddie ensures a Japanese team into SR (Fiji and Samoa in already).
Fiji then lose to Portugal (good for global rugby), and Australia go into QFs.
I just can't workout how Japan gets to beat Argentina to go into QFs, but it's in the mix somewhere.
Couldn't happen, right ?
Portugal win is 11.50 at Sunbet :whistle:
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7 months 2 weeks ago #11 by Quill

Kirky wrote: How's my (conspiracy) theory:
Eddie's powerful (rugby sponsors) friends in Japan have agreed to make big donations to Fijian rugby programs.
In return Eddie ensures a Japanese team into SR (Fiji and Samoa in already).
Fiji then lose to Portugal (good for global rugby), and Australia go into QFs.
I just can't workout how Japan gets to beat Argentina to go into QFs, but it's in the mix somewhere.
Couldn't happen, right ?
Portugal win is 11.50 at Sunbet :whistle:


Oh!
Are you implying that the Sunwolves will return to Super Rugby? :cheer:
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7 months 2 weeks ago - 7 months 2 weeks ago #12 by Kirky

Quill wrote:
Oh!
Are you implying that the Sunwolves will return to Super Rugby? :cheer:

Maybe. If that's what's been agreed. It's just a theory based on Eddie's (alleged) interview call/discussion with Japan rugby from last week.
It's an everyone wins scenario, backed by big money :lol:
Stuff like that happens in most other sports, and although we believe rugby is super-clean, it's really only a matter of time. No ?
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7 months 2 weeks ago #13 by Quill

Kirky wrote:

Quill wrote:
Oh!
Are you implying that the Sunwolves will return to Super Rugby? :cheer:

Maybe. If that's what's been agreed. It's just a theory based on Eddie's (alleged) interview call/discussion with Japan rugby from last week.
It's an everyone wins scenario, backed by big money :lol:
Stuff like that happens in most other sports, and although we believe rugby is super-clean, it's really only a matter of time. No ?

So Eddie's phone call to Japan was not really an interview, so he's telling the truth there!
What it was, was actually his way of making it through the group stage and shut a few voices! :ohmy: :cheer:

It is not a sci-fi theory, it happens elsewhere indeed, in various shapes and forms.

Shall we place the bets on Portugal to win?
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7 months 2 weeks ago #14 by Quill

Quill wrote:

Kirky wrote:

Quill wrote:
Oh!
Are you implying that the Sunwolves will return to Super Rugby? :cheer:

Maybe. If that's what's been agreed. It's just a theory based on Eddie's (alleged) interview call/discussion with Japan rugby from last week.
It's an everyone wins scenario, backed by big money :lol:
Stuff like that happens in most other sports, and although we believe rugby is super-clean, it's really only a matter of time. No ?

So Eddie's phone call to Japan was not really an interview, so he's telling the truth there!
What it was, was actually his way of making it through the group stage and shut a few voices! :ohmy: :cheer:

It is not a sci-fi theory, it happens elsewhere indeed, in various shapes and forms.

Shall we place the bets on Portugal to win?

Does anyone know what hotel did the Wallabies book for next week?
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7 months 2 weeks ago #15 by Brent Graham
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This video on Pool B Conspiracy (and the debunking thereof) seems appropriate given the conversations above :lol:

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7 months 2 weeks ago - 7 months 2 weeks ago #16 by Naidoo
NZ vs Uruguay

Roigard to score a try in both halves - 6/1 (Sportingbet)

Roigard to score a try & Uruguay 3+ points - 12/10 (Hollywoodbets)

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7 months 2 weeks ago #17 by R3V3R3NT_
Uruguay have been competitive all tournament it would be a mistake not to back them here. I rewatched the game vs Namibia and I like how they came back after being down early. Always a sign of a team that is gelling and playing well together.

AB's missing Savea, Smith, Retallick, Ioane, Laulala, and Tele'a. This is very clearly a B side. The bench should see decent minutes including the likes of Christie and Clarke whom have both have been terrible, Christie in particular. There is a guy in Hawkes bay sniffing coke off a broken Ranfurly shield that is better than him HA!

Tough opposing the ABs after watching the demolish the Italians but this isn't the same team.

Uruguay +69.5 / + 57.5 @ $3.50
Uruguay over 0.5 try
Uruguay Over 6.5 points

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7 months 2 weeks ago #18 by Laraxwell
NZ v Uruguay
Main bet: 2nd Half = Highest scoring half

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7 months 2 weeks ago #19 by Brent Graham
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Persuaded Boyles - Click here is you don't have an account yet to boost a couple of try scorer pics

Leicester Fainaanku to score 2 or more tries at 1/1

Finlay Christie Last Try Score at 22/1

New Zealand v Uruguay Preview

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7 months 2 weeks ago #20 by Pablo
Not a tryscorer market expert, and I rarely bet in that market, but Richie Mounga anytime tryscorer at @2.72 looks crazy for me.

In other bookies just @1.95

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7 months 2 weeks ago #21 by van Dyk
So as a betting noob, can someone tell me what the unit? So like below it says 0.5 unit.

BET: 0.5 unit Finlay Christie Last Try Score at 22/1 (was 18/1)

thanks

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7 months 2 weeks ago #22 by Enrique
Good afternoon. Sportingbet has odds available for teams' total world cup points.

I like England's overs.
They currently have 132 points.
Their handicap is 221.5.

They should play another 4 matches in this World Cup.
Samoa
Fiji
Semi
3 rd place match.

I can see them getting 35 against Samoa, another 30 against Fiji and then needing 25 points more with 2 games left. Surely. 3rd and 4th place games are usually big scores.

9/10, I’m taking that.
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7 months 2 weeks ago #23 by Quill

van Dyk wrote: So as a betting noob, can someone tell me what the unit? So like below it says 0.5 unit.

BET: 0.5 unit Finlay Christie Last Try Score at 22/1 (was 18/1)

thanks

A unit is a part of how much you establish to bet for yourself as a maximum bet, normally between 2% and 5% of your bank, of your funds reserved for betting.
For example if your bank is 1,000 dollars (rand or whatever currency), your maximum bet should be 20. Then depending on how you feel about a bet, that is so-so or stronger, you decide the amount to bet on it.

You divide the 20 dollars into units, say 5 units for the sake of our calculation. That makes a unit equal to 4 dollars.
If you feel strong about a bet, you say I bet 5 units, that is you bet your maximum on it, that is 20 dollars.
If you don't feel so strong about it, you say 0.5 units, or 1 unit or 2 units. Then that means that the amount you bet is 2 dollars (0.5 units), 4 dollars or 8 dollars, respectively.

Also, the number of units you play depends on the odds. Like in your example, the odds are very big at 22/1, so there isn't much sense to put your full size bet on it, no matter how strong you feel about it, as even with half a unit you can win a lot. You can minimize the risk by placing a smaller bet, as it compensates with the size of the odds.

Sometimes you will see on this forum some people saying 6 units, which means they feel very strong about a bet, so strong that they are willing to increase their stake on it. That is when the odds in play are around 1.80 - 2.20 (every country has their own number style, fraction, decimals, plus/minus).
Bigger than that and you can decrease the size of your bet, the number of units you are willing to risk.

This is just one way of looking at it. If you do a google search, I am sure you will find other explanations as well.

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7 months 2 weeks ago #24 by Brent Graham
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van Dyk wrote: So as a betting noob, can someone tell me what the unit? So like below it says 0.5 unit.

BET: 0.5 unit Finlay Christie Last Try Score at 22/1 (was 18/1)

thanks


Thanks to Quill for the explanation and using my scale I have 10 units as a max bet (hardy ever used) and most 9/10 shots will be best of 4-6 units depending on how strong I fancy it - on the longer prices I sometime go down to 1 unit or sometimes 0.5 units - so basically just an interest.

I did an article on it once and used to reference it from previews - this is a reminder I should do so again - thanks

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7 months 2 weeks ago #25 by van Dyk
Thanks guys for a proper explanation, much appreciated.

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7 months 2 weeks ago #26 by shaft
Took a nice stretch at Palacebet. Damian McKenzie, Codie Taylor and Jordie Barrett all to score a try @ 4/1

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7 months 2 weeks ago #27 by Pablo

Pablo wrote: Not a tryscorer market expert, and I rarely bet in that market, but Richie Mounga anytime tryscorer at @2.72 looks crazy for me.

In other bookies just @1.95


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7 months 2 weeks ago #28 by R3V3R3NT_
I'm getting punished for fading the All Blacks.

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7 months 1 week ago #29 by Brent Graham
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On we go and nice to see Leicester get his 2 tries last night although wasn't a big play

France v Italy Preview

Backing France to reach 20 by the break

France over 19.5 FHP

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7 months 1 week ago #30 by Brent Graham
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The Handicap Rugby World Cup Round 5 betting preview is live at 13h00 and Mondo is joining with a possible 2nd guest to come in

R500 betting voucher from Betx to a live viewer

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7 months 1 week ago #31 by Brent Graham
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Wales v Georgia next up

I like overs and taking 1/1 over 50.5 at Betx

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7 months 1 week ago - 7 months 1 week ago #32 by mackem
Couch’s Corner, RWC Round 5 preview from Hein

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FRAvITA - First Tryscorer – Peato Mauvaka was 10.0 boosted to 12.5
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IREvSCO - Ireland to win by 1-12 points was 2.6 now boosted to 2.85

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Plenty of other plays from Couch in that preview as well

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7 months 1 week ago #33 by Pablo
Sale Sharks over 60.5 points @2.62 2u

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7 months 1 week ago #34 by shaft
Fra vs Ita

Either team to score a penalty in the first 10 minutes @ EVS. Solid strike

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7 months 1 week ago #35 by Brent Graham
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Ireland v Scotland betting preview

If this price holds it is going in the newsletter later

Under 5.5 tries at 17/20

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7 months 1 week ago #36 by Chiefie
Not sure if anyone watched the Canterbury v Auckland game this morning, but Nick Briant is a cowboy.

High tackles no cards.
Deliberate knock ons, play on.
Last try was a clear lost forward and awarded.

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7 months 1 week ago #37 by Laokai

Brent Graham wrote: On we go and nice to see Leicester get his 2 tries last night although wasn't a big play

France v Italy Preview


Backing France to reach 20 by the break

France over 19.5 FHP



I really like that bet, as I also think France start hard and try to break Italy early.
5U France TT o19.5 HT @1.84 (unibet)

BOL!

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7 months 1 week ago #38 by coil
Thankfully I got caught up by work yesterday as I would have backed Uruguay on the plus . Earlier in the week I made Italy one of my better bets though I'm not as confident as I was . I do like the pointers with regard to breaking Italy early and am hoping that they can bounce back from that humiliating defeat to the All Blacks . Before that defeat they were touted a decent side and I'll give them another chance .
Italy plus 28.5 for a medium strike .

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7 months 1 week ago #39 by The Vann
No footie of interest this evening so perfect chance to make an arse of one's self on the rugby boards

Italy under 14.5 points @ 9/10

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7 months 1 week ago #40 by southpaw
Maxed on work all week so barely even looked at upcoming games.

Will be able to watch tonight, so going-

Italy over 13.5 @ 5/6

14 would be nice hey vann?
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7 months 1 week ago #41 by hanrick
Like a lab rat back for more punishment on Italy.

Italy over 14.5 at 9/10 and Italy +28.5 at 9/10.

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7 months 1 week ago #42 by southpaw
At this rate I’d be happy for France to go 40-50 clear and let Italy in for 2 mercy tries later on. A massacre on cards already.

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7 months 1 week ago #43 by kompos
surely this Italian couch is going to resign at half time

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7 months 1 week ago #44 by coil
Fuk me , fuk off Italy , shocking

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7 months 1 week ago #45 by Jameson
The crowd got that Italian try chalked off. Ref shat himself - nothing wrong with the clearout. French back line 2 yards offside and ignored leading up to it too.

Yes you guessed it I'm on +28 lol
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7 months 1 week ago #46 by van Dyk
Stupid Marius lol I was already celebrating my Italy HT score +6.5. I really dislike the amount of boooing happening at all the games. Do you guys think Italy will get a try in the second half haha

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7 months 1 week ago #47 by southpaw
Getting a bit more involved today -

Wales v Georgia over 49.5 @ 10/11

I do think this ground has been strong for points, has best surface of venues and perfect conditions again.

England v Samoa over 52.5 @ 10/11

Conditions also clear, I think Samoa have a crack here and either plays into englands hands who get a lot of counter attacking space, or Samoa get a few tries and scoreboard keeps ticking over.

Ireland Scotland - Scotland plus is where I’m probably heading but will see how afternoon punting goes first.

Looking for a few from Rees Zammit today as have him @ evens for top wales tournament tryscorer.

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7 months 1 week ago #48 by Brent Graham
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Cheers South we aligned on the 1st 2 games

England v Samoa Betting Preview

Over 52.1 at 1/1
Mitchell FTS at 12/1

France half time handicap arrived comfortably although I gave winnings back on Italy bets at the break. They were useless but at the same time that was one of the most one sided reffing performances I have witnessed - he gave Italy nothing - I don't think Italy cap backers can complain but Italy points backers certainly can

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7 months 1 week ago #49 by Pablo
Saracens over 57.5 points @2.62 2u

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7 months 1 week ago #50 by R3V3R3NT_
I think Wales puts Georgia way in good conditions. Highest ever margin between the two is 28 points I think they beat it here.
Wales Over 33.5
Wales -18.5 / -26.5 @ $2.9

Prefer under 52.5 in the England V Samoa game. England has been strong defensively and Samoa also impressed on D while struggling in attack except for the final 15 minutes vs Japan. Expect a similar score to the Japan and Argentina game. 30ish to 10 ish.
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